There should be no way to speedrun daily storyline dungeon roulettes

[FaizeD]

I honestly haven't done MS Roulette in so long because the reward to time ratio is for the most part not worth it. Many people who had to spam CM/Prae over and over to get their darklight gear in early 2.0 feel the same way. This is of course not an ideal situtation as there are less people in queue to help new players progress through the story... and you propose to make it even LESS desirable to even consider? How about this - players who have completed CM/Prae can no longer enter the instance. Now try completing your story missions and report back how long you've been waiting in queue as a dps. Probably days.

[Mholito]

I really don't get why new players have to limit their enjoyment of the last dungeons for the sake of someone who isn't enjoying it in the first place. If you don't like running the dungeons in the Main Scenario roulette, then don't do the Main Scenario Roulette.

[TsubasaHana]

I can even agree with you, they can not like the dungeon, but the rewards are not that bad in roulette, if you are at your first 2 weeks into 50 you'll probably want to run these every day, but after that never again. And also if it weren't for these people you would have to wait 4h in queue.

[Mholito]

Those rewards are there to compensate for potentially having to put up with people that want to enjoy the last two dungeons in the game. If you ruin other people's experience of the end, you have not earned those tomestones.

[Deelo]

Those rewards are there to compensate for potentially having to put up with people that want to enjoy the last two dungeons in the game. If you ruin other people's experience of the end, you have not earned those tomestones.

No, those rewards are there to entice people who've cleared already into doing it again so the new people can get a chance to clear and not wait all day in duty finder. This will never end because both sides are using the same argument. If you tell me I'm ruining your experience by skipping scenes, I can say you're ruining my experience by watching them. Just ask at the start of the dungeon which everyone prefers and go with the majority. If it's not the answer you want, suck it up, get your clear, and watch them in your Innkeep...or drop and gamble with the next party you get.

[Mholito]

No, those rewards are there to entice people who've cleared already into doing it again so the new people can get a chance to clear and not wait all day in duty finder. This will never end because both sides are using the same argument. If you tell me I'm ruining your experience by skipping scenes, I can say you're ruining my experience by watching them. Just ask at the start of the dungeon which everyone prefers and go with the majority. If it's not the answer you want, suck it up, get your clear, and watch them in your Innkeep...or drop and gamble with the next party you get.

How can someone ruin your enjoyment, when you're not enjoying it in the first place?
The rewards are nice, but there are other ways to get tomes.

[Deelo]

How can someone ruin your enjoyment, when you're not enjoying it in the first place?
The rewards are nice, but there are other ways to get tomes.

What if I enjoy doing it as a speed run? Who are you to judge what I find enjoyable or not? Same applies to me for you. Again, that's why this argument will go on forever lol. And yes, there are other ways to get tomes, but if we didn't que, the new people would never get them done....and these crybaby threads would get even worse.

[ispano]

What if I enjoy doing it as a speed run? Who are you to judge what I find enjoyable or not? Same applies to me for you. Again, that's why this argument will go on forever lol. And yes, there are other ways to get tomes, but if we didn't que, the new people would never get them done....and these crybaby threads would get even worse.

This was the issue before roulette, but after better tome acquisition happened. No one did these two, and Cape Westwind for that matter. People would wait upwards of four hours, for nothing.

[FaizeD]

Those rewards are there to compensate for potentially having to put up with people that want to enjoy the last two dungeons in the game. If you ruin other people's experience of the end, you have not earned those tomestones.

And the tomes are not worth it. 30 minutes of cutscenes plus a full dungeon for myth that anyone can earn in hunts or ST quite easily. One would think that new players would adopt the mindset that 7 other people are taking their time to help out for meager rewards and just skip the cutscenes and watch them in their inn room. We all did it on our first run, however this is apparently too much to ask. If that's the case then they have no right to complain that the queue for Prae is 4+ hours long. You either take 20 minutes to finish your mission and move on to bigger and better things, or you can wait forever in queue because no one wants to sit through year old content they have seen 100 times for the benefit of your precious immersion. In the current system, there is no middle ground aside from forming your own 2 hour Prae party so everyone can ooh and aah at the pretty lights.

[DenariusJay]

Why do we even have cut scenes in a multiplayer game anyways? The intro cut scene makes sense, but really, after that... whats the point? All these cut scenes in the middle of the run is just obnoxious and poor taste by the developers. It disrupts the flow of the game. Cut scenes should stay where they belong, in the single player story-mode content. In a 8 man multiplayer run, cut scenes don't make any sense at all. I never understood it.