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  1. #21
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    Klame Do'ddasek
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    Lich
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jican View Post
    In an effort to not continue this conversation with snide remarks, I'm going to leave with this. Enjoy the game, and best of luck to you.
    Yeah sorry for the tone I used, and thanks for your input. I understand there are different groups of players with different perspective.
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  2. #22
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    Sasoriza's Avatar
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    Sasoriza Tekisasu
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Personally for me I don't mind waiting, but I am just one person. It is a game it should be fun. So if you get in a good group sometimes if you say you are new they will slow down. (sadly not everybody does)
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  3. #23
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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    urgh....this again.

    SE wants to help new player to get party quicker by put putting it in rouletter,
    the reward encourage advance player to help out new player.

    But look like it still not enough.
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  4. #24
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    I just want to reply to this thread with this, Klame: Not only are you wrong and a horrible person, but you should also be subjected to public execution by guillotine!
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  5. #25
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    There's already been a hundred threads about this. Both sides of the coin are right and wrong.

    Why should 7 players wait on you? They have probably been here more times than you dread to think and SE wanted experienced players in DF for this so here you go.

    On the other hand; why should they skip cutscenes for others, it ruins immersion, watching in the inn later isn't as fun and your new here and wish to take it slow.

    This could go on and on like a tennis match but this is a player created problem and nothing something SE can fix with a magic wand.
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  6. #26
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    krazyrs's Avatar
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    Krazy Kat
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 60
    If only "new" players knew the joy of running this back in 2.0 where you would hit it 6-10x a day because it was the fastest way to obtain myth for darklight… (cm/prae or a good group for ak when it was hard)
    Then they would understand why we want to speed run it for that 1x daily quest
    Sick of the dungeon so watch your cs's first time thro to get your immersion into the story while the rest of us fight the boss.
    2nd time thro skip them and help out with the fights
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  7. #27
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    Sensyon's Avatar
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    Sensyon Summersend
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    You're new. I don't believe you'll feel this way in a month. You'll be skipping those cutscenes and pressing on like everyone else. I'm sorry you can't find a group to help you through slow enough to watch the cutscenes and explore the area, and I truly hope you find them, but if you don't want to be patient and use PF or ask your FC mates, or even join a new one, than beggars can't be choosers. If I'm using my daily Roulette, I'm doing it for myth and to get you a clear. This is how it works. The alternatives are there, whether you like them or not. And if advanced players were forced to sit and watch cutscenes and wait idly by, than we wouldn't go in there, and then you'd be waiting forever...
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  8. #28
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by krazyrs View Post
    If only "new" players knew the joy of running this back in 2.0 where you would hit it 6-10x a day because it was the fastest way to obtain myth for darklight… (cm/prae or a good group for ak when it was hard)
    Then they would understand why we want to speed run it for that 1x daily quest
    Sick of the dungeon so watch your cs's first time thro to get your immersion into the story while the rest of us fight the boss.
    2nd time thro skip them and help out with the fights
    That's kind of stupid. Why should he not be involved in the boss fights just because people don't want to wait? It seems unfair that the person who is new and playing the story dungeons for the story should have to suffer instead of the people who have already been through the dungeon and are only doing it for a (very) selfish goal. It seems completely backward that new players should speed up their play rather than the more experienced players to slow down.
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  9. #29
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    Llyren Wolfpaw
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    First run : Get in. Say "Hi I'm new to this." Watch cutscenes.
    Second run : Get in. Say "Hi, I'm new to this. Learn the fights. Expect anyone that says they are new to this to watch cutscenes. Maybe rewatch a few yourself.
    Third run : Get in. Speedrun.
    Fourth Run : Get in. Speedrun, Explain things to newer folks.
    Fifth run: Get in. Speedrun, Explain things in a simple way to newer folks.
    Sixth run: Get in. Speedrun, Stop caring if anyone is new.
    Seventh run : Get in. Speedrun, Stop reading chat...

    Some folks may take a few more runs to get through these
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  10. #30
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    TsubasaHana's Avatar
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    Tsubasa Hana
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Can't see this happening, first time I did these things I've skipped all the things and just watched it later at the inn. While it's not the better of choices, it still better to play through the content than just sit watching cutscenes and then quit cuz you will be far behind.

    Everyone knows and no one waits, I don't wait. I warn new players that they have a choice to make: or they watch the cutscenes and don't play at all or they play and watch the cutscenes later.

    Same thing will happen to coil runs and raids, no one will wait you just because you're new, if you have 23 people wanting to just kill the damn boss they will not wait a new one that will probably die along the way anyway, if they're DPS they will not even consider waiting, so get used to it.
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