Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[Volcano]

Honestly, if you join a Greed party and roll Need on things, I'd kick you for not abiding by the party rules.

It seems like nobody reads the party description. I don't write it for my health here, people.

Then people should start going as the job if they want a specific item. Getting mad at someone who needs on the item they can actually USE is pretty stupid. regardless of your made up rules.

[AdamFyi]

Then people should start going as the job if they want a specific item. Getting mad at someone who needs on the item they can actually USE is pretty stupid. regardless of your made up rules.

Actually, if I recall correctly, SE made a statement about loot rules and that if you join a party, you must abide by that loot rule (If any exist) that has been set by the group. Failure to abide by the loot rules set by the group can be reported and action will possibly be taken.

Edit: Correct me if I'm mistaken though.

Edit-edit: Found it!

Greetings,

One of the first things we are looking into doing is adding a system so information is displayed in the chat log regarding who lotted on an item.

We've received a lot of requests to make it possible to pass after you've already lotted on an item, but due to the current system as well as prospects for the future we do not have any plans to implement this at the moment.

Also, while this isn't limited to only the topic at hand, it's extremely difficult to prevent human error by creating perfect rules within the game system as it becomes something that forces players to go through a cumbersome process. (Such as going through multiple confirmation windows.)

Naturally we will continue to make changes to the system for improvements, but ultimately we feel that there are situations where we would like you to decide on the rules amongst yourselves. Before entering a duty, make sure that all party members are informed of the agreement and who is able to lot on which item. All party members should agree to those terms before entering to ensure an agreement is clearly understood.

Breaking these agreements, or behavior that imposes on other players' enjoyment of the game, will not be tolerated. If after an investigation it's confirmed that a player clearly understood the rules when joining a group and still acted in such a manner, proper action will be taken against the player, which may include confiscation of the item or account suspension, so please avoid doing anything like this.

[Nel_Celestine]

I understand your point, it would be more desirable for anyone who wants to clear anything to weed out the less experienced, but looking at the bigger picture it does no good for the game, a month or two after content is released you would hardly ever see parties without this clear requirement on.

Month or two? try a day or two. I counted 12 hours after ST was released before people started raging at new people. 12 hours. If this is put into the game I can expect the same from PF.

[Dark-Saviour]

You can have this option the second they uncap the black-list and allow me to automatically add anyone who uses it to mine. :-)

[TomTom1968]

You can have this option the second they uncap the black-list and allow me to automatically add anyone who uses it to mine. :-)

So you want to blacklist players who like to run a Group search for specific players and not just searches for parties "open for everybody"? Congratulations, most silly and childish answer in this thread so far. You would have to blacklist 95% of all people in Endgame because everybody searches for people in a similiar boat, not only kill parties. You know why there is Duty Finder and Group Finder and what the difference is? God how I already regret to have made this thread. Sometimes it is better not to know what others think.

[Volcano]

Actually, if I recall correctly, SE made a statement about loot rules and that if you join a party, you must abide by that loot rule (If any exist) that has been set by the group. Failure to abide by the loot rules set by the group can be reported and action will possibly be taken.

Edit: Correct me if I'm mistaken though.

Edit-edit: Found it!

They also made a statment that third party tools are not tolerated and will result in account supension/termination and yet bots are running around freely, destroying the market and still there after reports have been filed, so you'll have to excuse me if they don't "act" on this. so far no one has been silly enough to put such rules up as of yet, since people understand people actually need things. but it's nice you pointed that out.

[AdamFyi]

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Woah, woah - I have to stop you there. There is no need for the hostility towards anyone, especially SE. Botting is an entirely different problem altogether and they can't just ban people because players assume they are botting. You'd have a case of false accusations beong thrown around left and right. That's why they opted to ban bots periodically instead of once they received a report. This gives them time to investigate.

Alright, getting a little sidetracked here. As for your last statement, yes it is true, but I've seen some greed parties and such, but usually they fall under farming. People usually can negotiate within the group if they want loot.

Anyway, I don't see too much of a problem with having this feature. It would only affect those who want to farm for loot and those who want a free carry. Good players can still ask leaders for exceptions to the group.

[Anatha]

Party Finder is meant for those who wish to stipulate the sort of players they want to play with. Currently Party Finder has no safeguards against liars.

That is what this topic is about, the need to be able to filter out deceptive players. Sorry but this is probably one of the best ideas to be mentioned in awhile.

If you're not a liar, you shouldn't have any issue with it. There will ALWAYS be learning groups, there will ALWAYS be progression groups, why should the farm parties be crapped on, why are you defending deceitful people?

There's no harm in having a checkbox that guarantees everyone in the party has at least 1 clear, heck make it variable, you can check it off for "1 clear" or "10 clears".

[ispano]

They also made a statment that third party tools are not tolerated and will result in account supension/termination and yet bots are running around freely, destroying the market and still there after reports have been filed, so you'll have to excuse me if they don't "act" on this. so far no one has been silly enough to put such rules up as of yet, since people understand people actually need things. but it's nice you pointed that out.

Except the point of putting a rule up in PF, is for people to, you know, FOLLOW said rule. If someone puts up a greed only party in PF, and you join(agreeing to the rule) and then proceed to break that rule, that's effectively harassment of one type. It's a trust issue. And while they will never say anything about how many times they've acted on said reports, I'm betting they've done it at least a few times.

[Amberion]

It is absolutely hilarious just how far people will reach to try and convince everyone else their twisted view is right.

You can practically pick out the sociopaths in this thread within a sentence.

Umm, seems you like to use words you don't know the meaning of.

And even if you by some chance know the meaning of it. You are the very first one that has said people that debate are sociopaths.