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    Player
    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Sounds pretty convenient for you, now that you've already had your "first time" and have had your chance to learn the mechanics. How do you expect newer players to ever get into these dungeons, if experienced players are blocking them from joining?

    Duty Finder is an automatic grouping tool that joins you with random players. As in, you may get highly skilled people, or newbies, or anything in between. It is not the place to make demands. If you have specific conditions you need met, then form a group manually. Square Enix would never implement your idea in a million years. It is essentially saying "We don't want new players anymore. If you aren't already a veteran by now, please unsubscribe."
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    Sounds pretty convenient for you, now that you've already had your "first time" and have had your chance to learn the mechanics. How do you expect newer players to ever get into these dungeons, if experienced players are blocking them from joining?

    Duty Finder is an automatic grouping tool that joins you with random players. As in, you may get highly skilled people, or newbies, or anything in between. It is not the place to make demands. If you have specific conditions you need met, then form a group manually. Square Enix would never implement your idea in a million years. It is essentially saying "We don't want new players anymore. If you aren't already a veteran by now, please unsubscribe."
    Pretty sure OP is talking about Party Finder, not Duty Finder.
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    RickXRolled's Avatar
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    Ryan Norris
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    Sounds pretty convenient for you, now that you've already had your "first time" and have had your chance to learn the mechanics. How do you expect newer players to ever get into these dungeons, if experienced players are blocking them from joining?"
    The players that cleared first were all new as well. Only difference is they learned and got good while the current groups of new players can' t be bothered to learn and get good and only want their clear and shiny so they NEED experienced players to "help" them through.
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    Lucie Gage
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 59
    Quote Originally Posted by RickXRolled View Post
    The players that cleared first were all new as well. Only difference is they learned and got good while the current groups of new players can' t be bothered to learn and get good and only want their clear and shiny so they NEED experienced players to "help" them through.
    So, the only good players are the players who started last year?
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    Q' Continuum
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    Shinryu
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    It's a useless flag because having cleared a content once doesn't mean having the ability to do it regularly.
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    If something like this was implemented it would become the norm, it would end up really bad.
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    Last edited by Alukah; 09-09-2014 at 01:40 AM. Reason: Thank you mobile app

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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    If something like this was implemented it would become the norm, it would end up really bad.
    Well if everyone respected the requirements players put up in Party Finder this kind of option wouldn't need to be asked for in the first place. Putting up the requirement that must have kill experience should guarantee you don't get first timers, but players with actual kill experience as stated.

    Thing is, that doesn't pan out too well so many times that players are getting frustrated with others lieing trying to get a free carry. Don't blame the players asking for this option, blame the selfish lieing players that join partys they shouldn't and spoil it for the rest.
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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    If something like this was implemented it would become the norm, it would end up really bad.
    I don't think it would be that bad, honestly. This would only apply to PF groups that want to farm content. It's not like farming parties want inexperienced people in the first place hence the "Multiple runs for the loot" being an available specification when creating the PF group. People who trust in their own ability should negotiate with the party leader to make an exception.
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    Last edited by AdamFyi; 09-09-2014 at 02:15 AM.

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    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    I understand your point, it would be more desirable for anyone who wants to clear anything to weed out the less experienced, but looking at the bigger picture it does no good for the game, a month or two after content is released you would hardly ever see parties without this clear requirement on.

    If people are being somewhat forced to help out the less experienced (not carry, not all newbies are baddies) then so be it, it's better than a situation where people are more excluded than they are atm.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    If people are being somewhat forced to help out the less experienced (not carry, not all newbies are baddies) then so be it, it's better than a situation where people are more excluded than they are atm.
    You do know that peoople wanting to learn can form their own PF parties, they don't have to rely on someone else making one to their requirements. Forcing people to do things has a higher negative effect than otherwise.

    So, you think it's fine that random new person joins a kill party and messes it up for the other 7? Even though requirements were for a certain level of experience?

    When content is new, I join as a pre-made party of those who havn't touched it yet, usually from FC, and we figure it out together, I don't join a PF party that has cleared and expect to be instructed.
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