Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[ispano]

People already ignore the Partyfinder checkboxes to begin with. Until they implement a way to force people to stay in a "farm group" for "Multiple runs for the loot", they should not implement the OP's suggestion, either.

Well this option would work, because it would check if the person joining had cleared or not and if they haven't, prevent them from joining.

[Volcano]

Its like you were in a hole, then dug it twice as deep, while also using your own point against yourself.

Bravo. It would seem people are hitting your nerves. I suggest deep breathing.

That's pretty much why i ignored what he said, as he didn't seem to even understand that what i said wasn't a direct comparison nor was any of that post related to what i was talking about, Some things are just to dumb to respond to. I don't think people like him think very clearly.

People already ignore the Partyfinder checkboxes to begin with. Until they implement a way to force people to stay in a "farm group" for "Multiple runs for the loot", they should not implement the OP's suggestion, either.

No, it won't even be considered, In the end, people will just do whatever they want, you just have to hope.

[Surian]

Yes, please include more possibilities for people to exclude others from playing with them.

[TeaTimeBear]

Well this option would work, because it would check if the person joining had cleared or not and if they haven't, prevent them from joining.

Still a small hole in the idea. If someone gets carried they can bypass that. But I believe this wouldn't occur so much.

[Dallie]

Why are people assuming people who haven't cleared content are bads and will be incapable? Or will it just be devestating getting someone without a clear who plays better than you?

Honestly I can see where the op is coming from but I think potentially you're missing out on good players just because you're assuming someone who hasn't cleared the stuff is terrible.

I think you're partially right. They're afraid their epeen will get smacked. Part of it is also wanting to remain in their nested, safe shell where they don't have to be exposed to anything but their own toxicity.

I understand not wanting to waste hours of your time with someone who licks dirty windowpanes, but all a system like this will do is jack up the elitism level by about ten notches. Between Hunts and 2nd Coil PF at the moment, it doesn't need to be any higher. People moan about how bad WoW raiding is/was...trust me, they have nothing on the snobbery in XIV.

[Anatha]

If you haven't cleared the content, you are not on "farm" status, and should not be joining farms.

There's no valid argument to the contrary. You do not know the content well enough to farm it because you haven't even cleared it, maybe you ARE an outlier and beyond perfection with your personal skills, it's too bad that doesn't mean jack when you have nothing to back it up with. Exceptions to rules are exceptions for a reason, and if you keep expecting to see the exception or be the exception, your life will be FULL of disappointment. The rule is the rule for a reason.

If you are capable and know the fight, but don't have a clear, you join a KILL group. If you don't know the fight, you join a learning group or a progression group. If you can do the fight with your eyes closed and have multiple clears, you can join a FARM group.

Anything else is deception on some level, and you should honestly feel ashamed for acting in that manner.

The idea put forth in the OP is sound and honestly would improve things. The only one who could ever be hurt by this checkbox are LIARS. I think it's sufficient to say that liars don't deserve to be pandered to.

[scarebearz]

Lots of people have "Cleared" it by paying.

Lots of people have "Cleared" it but were pretty much carried by the other members.

Lots have people have barely "Cleared" it and are not fit to join a farm group after 1 kill.

I don't see this checkbox helping much, if at all.

[Lithera]

These people who haven't cleared would start PFs and check that box so they get 7 people with a clear since PF filters don't apply to the creator or anyone who was in the party when the PF was created. Sure they'd risk people rage quitting as soon as the "new player" reward message popped up but people would do it anyways, making it harder to get into PF groups in general for anything you haven't already cleared unless you start the PF yourself. Oh and btw...for the people who like to say "If you don't like it start your own PF"...if everyone did that there'd be a bunch of 1-man PF entries and no parties being filled...

[Ryel]

These people who haven't cleared would start PFs and check that box so they get 7 people with a clear since PF filters don't apply to the creator or anyone who was in the party when the PF was created. Sure they'd risk people rage quitting as soon as the "new player" reward message popped up but people would do it anyways, making it harder to get into PF groups in general for anything you haven't already cleared unless you start the PF yourself. Oh and btw...for the people who like to say "If you don't like it start your own PF"...if everyone did that there'd be a bunch of 1-man PF entries and no parties being filled...

Simple solution would to be to make the box uncheckable unless you have the clear yourself.

Honestly i like the OP's suggestion and by no means does it promote exclusion, unfortunately however two things will occur as a result of something like this being implemented.

A) More players will most likely try to buy wins in an attempt to bypass the "previous clear" checkbox, this will likely result in many of those players just getting kicked from those parties anyway when it becomes apparent (and it will) that they bought their way past the content.

The only way to solve that issue would be for SE to implement more mechanics in fights that make it harder for players to carry others through, this may mean harder content in the long run though and that's an entirely separate debate.

B) The Party Finder will fill with more LEARNING and CLEAR parties rather than players setting up "Farming" parties under the guise of trying to get past the content. Players will actually be encouraged to create learning groups because they will be unable to sneak in to farm parties.

As a whole, inexperienced players will actually be FORCED to band together to try and get things done and learn with each other as opposed to trying to ride on the backs of others who may have limited time or specific goals in mind.

Like anything else this is open to exceptions should the Party Finder creator decide to drop the checkbox requiring clear if someone asks them or they're willing to give someone a shot in their group, this allows them the OPTION to control what elements they're willing to try in their parties without being at the mercy of the masses when creating a goal oriented group.

[Dashuto]

Those darn new people, to hell with all of them!

No new people allowed!

Not even once!

(Haha!... wait why are there no farmers to join my farm group?!)