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    Sep 2011
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    Ryel Altaria
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maddonious View Post
    I need not say more to you as I feel you are leading me on now and trying to aggravate me.
    While you may not like the replies that Aegis has given you, they aren't incorrect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddonious View Post
    You can tell a bot by watching its movement and if it doesn't respond to your replies. I am not new to the reporting game and know how to spot a bot when I see one.

    They are pre programed to follow set cords and respond with the same times with every movement and attack. They also do not show human characteristics when behaving such as jumping and taking the long way around rocks/rivers/gaps.

    The Leader can warp to my location and see for himself so don't act like they are so preoccupied with their own things that they are incapable of confirming themselves, I gladly tell them the area the bot was in.

    A lot of this is possibly accurate but impossible to verify with the tools available to you as a player.

    Speaking from personal experience, I'm a PC player who plays with a controller using a dual monitor setup. This allows me to alt tab and input commands via controller so i can watch movies or browse the web while still doing tasks that require minimal attention to the game like bulk craft orders or fishing or even simple FATE spam for Atma grind.

    The volume from other sources or the log spam from crafting / battle / anything else could very easily cause me to miss a /tell if I'm not expecting one, does this mean I'm botting because i didn't respond to you?

    This is exactly the reason that players aren't the ones tasked with carrying out in-game investigations on 3rd party activity and even with recorded evidence GM's have a policy of not using evidence submitted from outside of the game (Youtube videos, forums posts) in their investigations because of the caution they have to take when dealing with a player's account.

    If an FC leader does choose to follow up on your independent investigation that is entirely their call, but them not following up on your personal speculation is not grounds to report them.

    EDIT:

    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination713 View Post
    On topic, Maddonious is correct to report FC leaders if they refuse to kick a bot and don't want to see them. It's their responsibility to keep their FC's clean. It's no different than being an accomplice to a crime. The only people that protect bots are those that use them. Just like people that hate cops that have something to hide. It's been proven time and time again.
    This would be correct if the FC leader was actively encouraging the use of 3rd party tools and you could prove it, while i agree an FC leader should keep a clean FC it isn't a reportable offense
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    Last edited by Ryel; 09-07-2014 at 07:33 AM.