Reporting FC leaders who know about cheaters?

[Scootaloo]

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Your exactly right! How it works is that SE turns a blind eye to botters as long as they continue to pay their sub fee!

[Maddonious]

Aware of what? How can he be sure you're not making it up?

He doesn't have the powers to investigate that GMs do. What you are describing is a witch hunt.

You can tell a bot by watching its movement and if it doesn't respond to your replies. I am not new to the reporting game and know how to spot a bot when I see one.

They are pre programed to follow set cords and respond with the same times with every movement and attack. They also do not show human characteristics when behaving such as jumping and taking the long way around rocks/rivers/gaps.

The Leader can warp to my location and see for himself so don't act like they are so preoccupied with their own things that they are incapable of confirming themselves, I gladly tell them the area the bot was in.

[Aegis]

You can tell a bot by watching its movement and if it doesn't respond to your replies. I am not new to the reporting game and know how to spot a bot when I see one.

They are pre programed to follow set cords and respond with the same times with every movement and attack. They also do not show human characteristics when behaving such as jumping and taking the long way around rocks/rivers/gaps.

The Leader can warp to my location and see for himself so don't act like they are so preoccupied with their own things that they are incapable of confirming themselves, I gladly tell them the area the bot was in.

Even a GM wouldn't ban based on this. Doesn't respond to your tells? maybe he doesn't like you (possibly because you report him to the FC leader all the time), in any event he is under no obligation to reply to you. He does need to respond to a GM though, so they are the right people to report to, not your FC leader.

If the FC leader hasn't personally witnessed the other suspicious behaviour you describe (which is again, not sufficient for a GM to take steps) then he has no evidence to go by, just your testimony, which could be entirely made up.

From your description does it sound like he's a bot? definitely
Is it something to report to a GM? definitely
If the player responds to the GM is he going to get banned? Not a chance in hell unless he is implicated in suspicious transactions too.

I am not new to the reporting game

If this is your standard of evidence, I shudder to think how many false reports you may have submitted over the years.

[Amberion]

I always had fun with those players who hunted fishing bots in FFXI when I was fishing. Actually got 2 suspended for harassment.

Anyway, on to your questions.

Is it reportable? Yes it is. But you can report people for using an /emote too.

The important part is that it is not in no way an offense. At least I have never seen a part about players having to police other players.

[Velox]

The leader and the rest of the FC will prob end up in the next blanket banning due to gil flow. I wouldn't worry about it OP.

[Maddonious]

Even a GM wouldn't ban based on this. Doesn't respond to your tells? maybe he doesn't like you (possibly because you report him to the FC leader all the time), in any event he is under no obligation to reply to you. He does need to respond to a GM though, so they are the right people to report to, not your FC leader.


If this is your standard of evidence, I shudder to think how many false reports you may have submitted over the years.

He doesn't reply means hes not playing, also doesn't discredit the unhuman characteristics so you can't deny that. He doesn't reply because he doesnt like me? I dont tell him I told his FC leader so how would he know unless the FC leader (whom I told a few times) told him about me, some random guy, who goes around reporting people.

My reports are not false. People just play dumb and blind and I would not report unless im certain. You are just one of those blind people.

Also really? I would lie to a random FC leader about one of its random members doing illegal things? Think about that....... I would randomly spread false lies to try to get some random dude banned under my "uneducated" shot in the dark?

No I tell the FC leaders of the issue to help them clean up their FCs from associating with trash.

I need not say more to you as I feel you are leading me on now and trying to aggravate me.

[Curia_Regis]

The leader and the rest of the FC will prob end up in the next blanket banning due to gil flow. I wouldn't worry about it OP.

[rwyan]

Why are you hung up so much on the FC? Report the player you have reason to believe is cheating and be done with it.

[Aegis]

He doesn't reply means hes not playing, also doesn't discredit the unhuman characteristics so you can't deny that. He doesn't reply because he doesnt like me? I dont tell him I told his FC leader so how would he know unless the FC leader (whom I told a few times) told him about me, some random guy, who goes around reporting people.

My reports are not false. People just play dumb and blind and I would not report unless im certain. You are just one of those blind people.

Also really? I would lie to a random FC leader about one of its random members doing illegal things? Think about that....... I would randomly spread false lies to try to get some random dude banned under my "uneducated" shot in the dark?

No I tell the FC leaders of the issue to help them clean up their FCs from associating with trash.

I need not say more to you as I feel you are leading me on now and trying to aggravate me.

What distinguishes this player from any other who follows a set path between gathering nodes and has you on blist? You even said he was FATE-botting... how is that even possible? They're not regularly timed.

Raise the report with the GM and put it out of your mind. It's not the FC leader's job to respond to a disgruntled employee (know how i know you're disgruntled? you're looking into reporting someone who has done nothing wrong, but won't back up your accusations when he/she has seen nothing wrong?)

Hell, this other player has a case for harassment if you're trying to have him kicked from the FC behind his back...

I need not say more to you as I feel you are leading me on now and trying to aggravate me.

You seem the type to be easily aggravated.

[rwyan]

Your exactly right! How it works is that SE turns a blind eye to botters as long as they continue to pay their sub fee!

Comments like this are a bit irrational. Botters are frowned upon heavily by gamers, especially in sub-based games. The active presence of known botters will lead to genuine players to unsub. However, all players are given the benefit of the doubt and much investigation has to be done in order to verify any reported botters are in fact botters.