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  1. #11
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    Aegis's Avatar
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 70
    I am assuming you've a written admission, signed and appropriately notified by the cheater in question?

    Or you've just made allegations without any hard proof to the leader and he's decided not to kick the player on hearsay?
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  2. #12
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    I am not sure whether or not it is considered a reportable offense, but in my own opinion, I do agree with you. If he is aware of it, the FC leader is supporting botting/RMT activities or whatever by not dismissing them from the FC. I'd report them and let the GM decide whether or not they consider it alright. It certainly isn't abuse of the reporting system.
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  3. #13
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    Maddonious Mastothous
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Shard gathering is not in any way generating FC points. Gathering only generates points when getting a HQ item. Shards cannot HQ.
    True but i've seen the same bot gathering as well as Fate farm about 1 month ago (when I first reported it to leader/SE -.-) so he does get fc points when the bot is fating unfortunately.
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    Last edited by Maddonious; 09-07-2014 at 06:11 AM.

  4. #14
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    Aria Ashford
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    I'm confused here. Why not just report the botting player? Go to the source of the problem if you're that concerned about it.
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  5. #15
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddonious View Post
    True but i've seen the same bot gathering as well as Fate farm about 1 month ago (when I first reported it to leader/SE -.-) so he does get fc poitns when the bot is fating unfortunately.
    DoH/DoL doesn't get fate credit.
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  6. #16
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    Maddonious Mastothous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    I am assuming you've a written admission, signed and appropriately notified by the cheater in question?

    Or you've just made allegations without any hard proof to the leader and he's decided not to kick the player on hearsay?
    As i've said in first post i've alerted this FC leader several times now about the bot, hes aware.
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  7. #17
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    Aria Jade
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarletyoshi View Post
    That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
    LOL i actually read that in her voice..

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  8. #18
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    Maddonious Mastothous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    I'm confused here. Why not just report the botting player? Go to the source of the problem if you're that concerned about it.
    Firstly im not even gonna get started on SE banning of bots, seen enough still walking about, but thats another story, im just trying to see if I can also report those associated with the bot as well.
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  9. #19
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddonious View Post
    As i've said in first post i've alerted this FC leader several times now about the bot, hes aware.
    Aware of what? How can he be sure you're not making it up?

    He doesn't have the powers to investigate that GMs do. What you are describing is a witch hunt.
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  10. #20
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Aware of what? How can he be sure you're not making it up?

    He doesn't have the powers to investigate that GMs do. What you are describing is a witch hunt.
    Essentially this.

    While you can try to do a player "investigation" (I use this word very lightly as players don't have access to GM tools etc) on your own and take it upon yourself to alert an FC leader that one of their members may or may not be using 3rd party tools, the call really falls down to the FC leader as to whether or not to act on your word and really has no bearing ToS wise.

    There really isn't a "Report this player for not removing someone from their FC based on player speculation" clause in the ToS and if there was one i assure you the backlash would be monumental.

    Your best bet is to let the people who are supposed to handle this (The GMs) handle it, if you wish to notify an FC leader of your suspicions of a member you can do so but that road pretty much ends there.
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