Hunt Mob Entitlement?

[Kaethra]

The party that strikes the mob first is usually the one who gets the most out of it. That leads me to believe these mobs are 'contested content'. Contested meaning whoever gets there first, gets the lion's share. There is no need to wait on the whole server to get there.

Nobody can give a clear answer on how long or for how many people should wait. Well I can. Wait till your party has shown up. Once everyone in the party is situated, pull it, kill it, and move on. Congrats on getting the seals.

This isn't being selfish or mean either. When the hunts first came out. I tried the waiting thing. I was able to get literally 30+ people there waiting until there was no one else 'on the way'. We pulled, mob died in 5 seconds, my group got no credit despite being the first ones there and doing the so called 'right thing' by waiting. That means these mobs were meant to be competitive.

There's always the duty finder to get myth/sold in a non-competitive environment.

[KamikazeMan]

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Yep. I used to wait around for other people to show up (besides my party), but guess what? I got harassed anyway. I eventually got tired of it and just stopped caring about waiting on half the server just to be scolded anyway because no matter how long you wait, you will always leave somebody out and you will still be labeled as the bad guy/girl. I've gotten to hunts and have seen people wait literally 5 minutes for others to gather and when it gets pulled, people still get upset. Also, like you mentioned....being nice will most likely screw you over on seals, thus leading to you feel like you wasted your time waiting on people to show up. You can't please everybody and clearly hunts aren't for everybody. I enjoy hunts as open world competitive content, but the rewards are far too great and it causes hostility because people feel obligated to do hunts for those rewards as their only means of gear progression.

[Viridiana]

Nobody can give a clear answer on how long or for how many people should wait.

As a rule of thumb? About 3 minutes. A little less if the hunt is right by the aetheryte (Sabotender and Marberry, for example); an extra minute or two if it's ridiculously far away (Melt especially, some others, too). That should be enough time for anyone paying attention to zone in and run to it, usually. Anything more is just being generous.

Of course, then you get situations where more than one pops at a time. Our LS tends to go in order they're called in within the LS, even if they were actually discovered in the opposite order. I was in a party that waited at Marberry for quite a while because we really didn't want to run all the way to Melt, who was called first, but that's no reason to go ahead and kill the one in front of us without the LS.

Also, my party is rarely the one to pull, yet we pretty much always get full credit. Not sure what your group is doing wrong.

[GalkaBikini]

The party that strikes the mob first is usually the one who gets the most out of it.

I dunno who told you it works like this but they were wrong. Completely wrong.

[Kaethra]

As a rule of thumb? About 3 minutes.

Tried that too, still sketchy if you get credit or not, especially if there's a LS group gunning in on it.

I dunno who told you it works like this but they were wrong. Completely wrong.

No one told that to me. I've experienced it that way.

Try it yourself.

Like I said before. Tag it as soon as your group is ready and unload on it.

[GalkaBikini]

No one told that to me. I've experienced it that way.

lol... I don't think you understand how hunt contribution reward works. It not much different from FATEs.

[Kaethra]

It not much different from FATEs.

You're right, its not different than fates. As a Paladin you can flash spam everything in a fate, as a Black Mage you can scathe everything in a fate. And then let everyone else kill it and get full credit.

Aka, the first group that pulls gets full credit... Guaranteed. Everyone else have to compete with each other. If 'everyone else' hits the mob once for a few damage and there is enough people there that that 'few damage' each is enough to add up to kill the mob (as it was in my experience above) then credit goes a little 'wonky'. As in many people won't get credit and many will get little credit. But the first group that pulled the mob, will get full credit, regardless of the damage they did.

Hence.... you see the mob, get your group there and pull it as soon as possible. That's how it was designed. If its not how it was intended (design can be different from intent). Then they'll change it. But until then, grab it and kill it before it goes up to lady luck to decide who gets credit.

[GalkaBikini]

I don't have any problems getting full credit when my group doesn't pull first. What's your excuse?

[Viridiana]

Everyone else have to compete with each other. If 'everyone else' hits the mob once for a few damage and there is enough people there that that 'few damage' each is enough to add up to kill the mob (as it was in my experience above) then credit goes a little 'wonky'. As in many people won't get credit and many will get little credit. But the first group that pulled the mob, will get full credit, regardless of the damage they did..

And that's why healers are the best class to bring. Toss out a tiny attack and then spam Medica. If your party isn't afk, you'll get full credit.

[Viridiana]

No one told that to me. I've experienced it that way.

I have. I'm almost never in the claiming group, and I almost always get full credit. If I get reduced credit, it's usually because not all of my group made it in time. If I get no credit, it's because I didn't attack the mob. Failing one of those two scenarios, I don't think I've ever *not* gotten full credit.

In short, you're wrong.