Hunt Mob Entitlement?

[KamikazeMan]

Because a lot of people (not everybody), feel that all the content that the developers create for XIV is intended for them. On top of that, they feel that the content has to be available for them at all times. People need to understand that hunts are a competitive open world content. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think for an MMO to be a success, they have to offer content for a wide range of gamers in order to reach out to as many people as possible.

[GalkaBikini]

People need to understand that hunts are a competitive open world content.

If SE intended on hunts to be competitive PVE then they would have made it so the hunt mobs are claimed by the party that attacks it first. So I have no reason to believe this and to my knowledge SE has never claimed otherwise.

[KamikazeMan]

If SE intended on hunts to be competitive PVE then they would have made it so the hunt mobs are claimed by the party that attacks it first. So I have no reason to believe this and to my knowledge SE has never claimed otherwise.

I don't recall them ever saying we're supposed to share hunts with half the server either. And they went on to say the number of players each kind of rank of elite was intended for. They didn't have to bluntly state something that was obvious.

[GalkaBikini]

I don't recall them ever saying we're supposed to share hunts with half the server either.

No, but the fact that everyone that touches the mob gets credit should say something. And regardless of how all of this works this is a social environment and there are social repercussions for the way people behave. The general consensus (of any decent human being) is that you wait a short time. On my server we shun the fast pullers and they are removed from hunt parties. Don't want to be a part of the community? Well, then, don't.

[KamikazeMan]

snippy

That's just how the claim system works in XIV and I don't think it has anything to do with it. I also doubt people really blacklist early pullers....at least the people that matter on my server. Ever since hunts were introduced, I always only waited for my party to show up before pulling. I get nice /shout messages and some interesting tells, but I have yet to notice any kind of difference on PF or the way people treat me after 5 minutes of them raging. And the truth is, you can never wait long enough and will upset people regardless to how long you wait.

[Aegis]

Yes, those expecting people to announce the location of an NM and wait a few mins for people to gather are being entitled. Player A who found the boss is in no form of social contract to help others out, but they may choose to do so to help others who would benefit.

In the same way people who expect others not to let a door swing closed on them if they are a few paces behind are being entitled. Person A who has just walked through the door is in no form of social contract to help others out, but they may choose to do so to help others who would benefit.

In both cases, 'Person A' has an opportunity to help others at little personal cost. In neither case do they have to. In both cases the convention is that they should.

So don't be surprised if someone complains about NMs not being held, we complain when doors are allowed to close in our faces too. It's just manners.

[kidvideo]

Ninja has not been released yet, so therefore this is no "ninja-ing". I would say the hunters discussing the issue were jumping the gun, but the gun class has not been released yet either.

[Maero]

I always call out if i see hunts, only thing that annoys me is those that reset them and in turn i miss out in seals i would have otherwise received

[Noshpan]

There is a linkshell on Leviathan that feels entitled to every single hunt mark on the world server. Even after the recent changes, they still go out of their way to reset a target if others got to it first. And if another group downs it before they do, they commence with the butthurt rage. Behavior such as those in said linkshell are reasons why many others either a: don't participate in hunts anymore or not call out locations.

But no one is entitle for others to wait for a mark. If you get to it in time, then that is great, If you don't, there is always another time. I don't get mad if I miss out on a target (especially if it's one I need). I just wait for next time.

[GalkaBikini]

Resetting is against the TOS. No one resets on my server anymore.