Utsusemi?

[kyuven]

Since they did say to keep your melee DD gear around.

Developers can be weird. I'm not saying they couldn't include ROG on the same list as MNK, but remember that they could easily be referring to pre-50 and handmade gear. You know, the gear already shared between MNK and BRD? It's kind of a no brainer that NIN will be using that gear as well at least until 50.

The keyword though is "melee". They literally used the word melee. STR affects physical melee damage.

Assuming they're talking about PRE-level 50 gear, this does not change my original point. All of that leather armor intended for monks has DEX on it to allow it to be used for bards as well. My hunch tells me NIN is going to do SOMETHING with DEX simply because the class or similar classes have always done something with DEX, and for the fact that it would create a balance with all of the different layouts.
Right now: 2 STR, 2 VIT, 2 MND (well, 1 MND 1 PIE but who are we kidding), 2 INT, 1 DEX.
See the gap there? If ROG/NIN was going to be just another melee class, they would've been finished with it already. No, there's something special about it...I'll bet my ugly ass hat on it.

[Alistaire]

SE was asked this in some interview or live letter and they basically said it's open for them to re-use ability names from previous games. So they might get "utsusemi" but it might end up being completely different. Maybe something like elusive jump without the actual movement? Who knows.

[Duelle]

SE was asked this in some interview or live letter and they basically said it's open for them to re-use ability names from previous games. So they might get "utsusemi" but it might end up being completely different. Maybe something like elusive jump without the actual movement? Who knows.

That's sort of how I'm looking at it. The NIN jumps backward, drops a chunk of enmity and for visuals leaves a shadow version of themselves in the spot they jumped from for 2 seconds.

[Yumi_umi]

Orrrr SE can just make NIN a whole new thing with barely any ties to MNK.
Cuz like they are hyping community with teaser info and the fact they r taking a long time with it.
Cuz its ffxivarr, not ffxiv or ffxi
so all this logical theorycrafting and speculation could end up making us look like goofs when SE drops the nin patch on us lol!

But who knows.....
Anything is game lol

[silentwindfr]

Orrrr SE can just make NIN a whole new thing with barely any ties to MNK.
Cuz like they are hyping community with teaser info and the fact they r taking a long time with it.
Cuz its ffxivarr, not ffxiv or ffxi
so all this logical theorycrafting and speculation could end up making us look like goofs when SE drops the nin patch on us lol!

But who knows.....
Anything is game lol

yeah, that the point, that what worry me... but well we can only wait and see so far.

[Synestr]

Stoneskin > Phalanx > Utsusemi > Reprisal

Those were the days of the WALL tank. I enjoyed that, but it broke so much stuff. I truely hope it is like Manawall/ward, couple absorbs then gone, with a just-outside-of-effective-reuse cooldown.

[Lisotte]

I would be not opposed to having a NIN tank. It would bring back a lot of nostalgia for me, without the painful memories of buying ninja tools for it.

[Alistaire]

Stoneskin > Phalanx > Utsusemi > Reprisal

Those were the days of the WALL tank. I enjoyed that, but it broke so much stuff. I truely hope it is like Manawall/ward, couple absorbs then gone, with a just-outside-of-effective-reuse cooldown.

Right, cause manawall is basically ffxi's utsusemi. Easy to balance things when you can just give it a cooldown that'd prevent main tanking with it.

[ruskie]

Since they did say to keep your melee DD gear around.
The keyword though is "melee". They literally used the word melee. STR affects physical melee damage.

It could have been a mistranslation. Could have meant physical DD gear(which would be mnk and brd gear primarily and drg(but that is armour basically)).
I see a lot of people in leviathan go: melee tail ranged head. That is just wrong. It's physical DD tail, magic DD head.

[Ere]

Maybe they will adjust DEX to affect ninjutsu damage, so ROG/NIN may have to balance between STR and DEX.