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  1. #131
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    Kydi's Avatar
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    Dani Wah
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I think the way to deal with harassment and difficult players is, as difficult as it may be, to just ignore it and move on. Even a small server in this game will have several thousand players, so at least in early content the likelihood of you coming across the same person again is relatively slim. Obviously if you made a mistake because you're new and someone offers genuine advice then listen to that, but if someone is just being rude for no reason other than you're new try not to let it get to you, they're clearly just the type who wants to coast through all the content and doesn't appreciate that people are at different stages.

    At endgame a free company works wonders and will make your life a lot more enjoyable. Certainly the one I'm in are very helpful and don't mind dying every now and again (I hope!) whilst I'm learning to tank.
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    Last edited by Kydi; 09-03-2014 at 06:07 PM.

  2. #132
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    dam if you say and dam if you dont. Many times I have left instances where people had kicked new players because they said there were new. Same occurs the other way around, people kicking players for NOT saying they were new OR they were bashed that they finally went on their own accord.

    You owe nothing to nobody, people that cant act as adults which some arent of course I can barely understand those, but I can understand, dont deserve the time you spend in writting this post. It is giving them too much attention already.

    You will find good people out there, that will help you if you ask (they dont have the crystal ball so if you dont say they dont know you dont know) and generally are of good advice.

    Mei
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  3. #133
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    Millerna's Avatar
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    Character
    Millerna Astor
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Only advice I can give is, if you do come across a nice person in DF who doesn't mind helping new players, ask them if they happen to be on the same server, and if so, if you can add them to your friend's list. Also, if you happen to come across a friendly healer that doesn't mind running stuff with you, get them in your party. If the DPS try to go too fast, they'll quickly find out that a tank, even if they're new, is rather nice to have around

    Personally, I often play white mage when signing up for a roulette, and I go in with the expectation that there will be new players. Sometimes I also sign up as monk, in which case I try to not go all out on my dps all the time if I notice the tank is struggling with enmity. Paladin I only ever really use in a full pre-made group, because I prefer to have fun, not get crap tossed at me from some dps who want to prove they're badass and do just about everything to try and pull aggro off me (which in most cases fails, but it still annoying)
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  4. #134
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    Kirisunna's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    King Wonton
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Not everyone is like that. I really hope things are better for you now. If any new players are on Jenova there is a house party you can come to once you unlock going to the player housing. Details are here. For everyone else you are invited too on the Jenova server to come and have some fun.

    It's a learning experience for most people to play this game and though some people are harsh that doesn't mean that is all there is to it. There are nice people too and fun people as well.
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  5. #135
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Character
    Duelle Urelle
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Filtiarne View Post
    You need to get a keyboard. Being able to communicate with your party is a pretty big deal and will cause you to be at a worse and worse disadvantage the farther along in the content you get.
    This. I usually start getting worried when I see a tank:
    a) not use the right combos
    b) not respond when asked if they're new
    c) still continue doing their thing despite advice from other players

    GLA tanks are becoming infamous to me because of the first and last one. One time it took the combined effort of me (PGL) and the healer to teach one guy who didn't know about enmity combos on GLA. He eventually got it when I laid out a rotation for him to follow, and the run went very smoothly because of it. Part of me wishes the first 2 class quests for MRD and GLA intensively focused on enmity combos. At the same time it is the responsibility of those that know to teach those that do not know, but no one can't help you if you won't ask.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  6. #136
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    DenariusJay's Avatar
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    Denarius Jay
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Welcome to nerdrage OP. To them its not a game, its serious business. Time = loot mentality. Tons of speed runs.

    Look, people die in dungeons, get over it. I don't understand why people get all butthurt when someone doesn't get away from an attack in time, it happens. So what, deal with it. Me personally, when someone flips out in chat for whatever reason, I just ignore them.

    All pre-50 dungeons are pretty much a cakewalk save a few boss battles, which can be learned easily within the first run anyways. The only battle that got close to everyone bailing was the first time I hit Garuda, 3 new players 1 vet, but luckily he had the patience to stick it out with us even though we wiped multiple times. Eventually we got it, you move on.

    It's the reason I don't really care for the raids all that much (I'm talking MMO's in general, have yet to really delve into it with this game), too much parser, too much "need to be elite no mistakes, etc" yeah ok buddy, have your end game, its all yours.
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  7. #137
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    Seif's Avatar
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    Seif Dincht
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 72
    As a tank I can 100% relate to that.

    I feel terrible every time I step into a new fight because you just know you're the reason why everyone's duty will fail.

    For the record I've watched dozens of coil videos but when I went to t5 all that knowledge helped very little. You still need actual practice in the jumprope mechanics.

    Just please please be patient when somebody is new. It can feel terrible even without badmouthing.
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  8. #138
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    Umisame's Avatar
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    Character
    Umisame Makaiju
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I was a noob when i started in my first MMO(ffxi) but i tried to find all info about my job before i started to play.

    Before you start to play a MMO you know that you will invest many time on it, you should look for info about the game to decide wich class/job you will choose to start and read some info about that class/job.

    I see that you have lvl 50 whm and with very bad equip, im sure that you have gil/points to get better equip. There are many faqs/posts about what to do when you get your first job to 50. Use google to learn more about the game you are playing.

    I have no problem with people that are starting but i hate to lose my time with people that didnt use their time to learn about the game/job they are playing.
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  9. #139
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    I don't get it, doing all speed runs, and need to be perfect is stressing, I want to enjoy the game, I want to learn to play and have fun. I normally ignore people who are like that, my friends make fun of me, I'm always coward dont want to do alone the dungeons, especially if first time.

    And always say: I'm new to this dungeon if its first time in it, or firstimer as other job

    And wanted to say even if I encountered lot of rude people, I also found lot of nice people who were ready to help and explain the stuff how to do it.

    (If you are on Ceberus, I can be of some help, just search for Aster Frost)

    Quote Originally Posted by DenariusJay View Post
    It's the reason I don't really care for the raids all that much (I'm talking MMO's in general, have yet to really delve into it with this game), too much parser, too much "need to be elite no mistakes, etc" yeah ok buddy, have your end game, its all yours.
    I agree, totaly with this, I havent started coils yet because of that.
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  10. #140
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    Shneibel's Avatar
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipitii View Post
    Because I play on ps4. I didn't have a keyboard at the time. Which made it worse, because they thought I couldn't see what they were writing.. Plus they weren't waiting for me when I did try to type out a message via the in-game keyboard, they just kept going.
    now you know, from now on you need to have keyboard while play on ps4 at all time. Silence mean yes.

    Most of the time, if a player is new and he/she say/type that he/she is new, ppl will teach him/her automatic. In this case it is not the other fault you got the blame but it is your fault for not having prepare the tool for communication, in other words the USB keyboard (and they are super cheap)
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 09-03-2014 at 07:35 PM.

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