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  1. #581
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snootles View Post
    Because people have been mass feeding mixed fruits or 1 fruit and didn't know what to look for. So they landed on a colour but have no idea how they got there.



    I don't know, well no one knows 100% obviously. But to me that sounds like overcomplicating it.
    Set a simple straight forward line with presets, add RNG and they're done.

    Then again, I am no programmer whatsoever. So that's why I hope my spreadsheet can help someone to actually figure it out.

    Until then, I am sticking with the KISS theory (Keep It Simple, Stupid)
    I'd agree with you if there wasn't so much evidence to back the mathematical theory. There's a separate thread going on with a few hundred pages backing the math theory. It took me about 30 minutes to make the spreadsheet that estimates the dye color based on fruits fed on a math basis. To me, that is the definition of KISS. That linear theory, to me, is super complicated!

    I'll be doing more testing both ways to back up one of the two theories.
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    Attackat Muaddib
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayne422 View Post
    I linked to your thread and included a note in the description that you had a spreadsheet up there. I'm trying to make sure that I don't multi-link to things so that people don't get confused. If you'd like a link to both your thread and spreadsheet up though, I can do that.
    Please also revised the info of my spreadsheet, ver 2 is now refined to increment of 8s, not 16, to eliminate duplicate values.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomerz View Post
    To me, that is the definition of KISS. That linear theory, to me, is super complicated!
    There is only ONE theory, SE's programming logic.

    All the attempts here is just trying to figure out SE's programming logic, once we decode that, we have a clear path to how the colors are chosen.
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    Last edited by AttacKat; 08-29-2014 at 11:58 PM.

  3. #583
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    Una Stardancer
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    So, I finally got a stable for my FC and my fruits are in so dyeing time for my chocobo Frobisher! I will update as I go along.

    I am working off of this diagram since the calculator that's going around is REALLY confusing to me.

    Here's what I have so far:

    Starting colour: Desert Yellow
    Aim colour: Rolanberry Red
    Rank: 3

    First feeding
    5X Apples
    3X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Sunset Orange
    Actual Result: Millioncorn Yellow

    Second feeding
    5X Apples
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Pumpkin Orange
    Actual Result: Pumpkin Orange

    Third feeding
    9X Apples
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Sunset Orange
    Actual result: Sunset Orange

    Fourth feeding
    12X Apples
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Blood Red
    Actual result: Blood Red

    Fifth feeding
    4X Berries
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Dalamud Red
    Actual result: Dalamud Red

    Sixth feeding
    18x Berries
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Rolanberry Red
    Actual result: Regal Purple

    Seventh feeding
    1x Apple
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Dalamud Red?
    Actual result: Dalamud Red

    Eighth feeding
    1x Berry
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Rolanberry Red?
    Actual result: Regal Purple

    Ninth feeding
    1x Apple
    1X 'new feathers' message
    Anticipated result: Rolanberry Red?
    Actual result: ((unknown))

    I'm in a loop.. I don't know what to do!
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    Last edited by Rorichan; 09-01-2014 at 07:10 AM.

  4. #584
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    Saphiria Arcturus
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    Just wanted to update my mission to wine red. Figured it varies from the chart a little so it doesn't hurt to have some extra info.

    Starting Color: Desert Yellow >> 3x O'Ghomoro Berries >> New Color: Ul Brown >> 3x O'Ghomoro Berries >> New Color: Gobbiebag Brown >> 2x O'Ghomoro Berries >> New Color: Shale Brown >> 3x Valfruit >> New Color: Coral Pink >> 1x O'Ghomoro Berries >> New Color: Lavender Purple >> 7x O'Ghomoro Berries >> New Color: Plum Purple >> 9x Xelphatol Apples >> New Color: Regal Purple >> 1x Xelphatol Apples >> New Color: Blood Red >> 1x O'Ghomoro Berries >> New Color: ???
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    Valia Rosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomerz View Post
    I'll be doing more testing both ways to back up one of the two theories.
    Sounds good to me! We'll get to the bottom of this somehow!
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    Femke Fisker
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    I give up. I keep skipping over the colors I want.
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  7. #587
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    Lexi Snoot
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    Just have to show off what the hubby made for me. It's in my signature.
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    Ellana Trevelyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shika View Post
    Currant Purple +1 pear = Deepwood Green

    So I appear to be cycling now... not sure what to try next. Valfruit last time took me to Currant Purple again.
    I decided to use a pineapple, just to see what colour it would result in...
    Deepwood Green +1 pineapple = Marsh Green
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  9. #589
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    Alinah Valdene
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Click to enlarge

    Tried to make a bit less "messy", I think it's a bit less at least, hope I didn't miss anything. I might be able to squeeze in a few updates to the map if I got time before I go on holiday
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  10. #590
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    just adding in my limited experience so far, as it sort of follows alinah's chart but with a curve ball. i stopped feeding each time once i got the growing new feathers message.

    from starting yellow -> 4x doman plums got me to sylph green.
    sylph green -> 4x o'ghomoro berries got me to gobbiebag brown.
    gobbiebag brown -> 3x o'ghomoro berries got me to ash grey.

    at that point i decided market board prices were insane and i got some room in my fc garden to grow more berries. i'm ultimately trying for morbol green, but am going in small steps, just 1 new feathers growing message at a time, so this will take a while. will try and update this as i can once my berries have grown.
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