Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[LyricalMelody]

Turquoise Green --> Used 11 Berries = Peacock Blue
Peacock Blue --> Used 1 Berry = Othard Blue
Othard Blue --> Used 7 Berries = Storm Blue
Storm Blue --> Used 9 Berries = Royal Blue
Royal Blue --> Used 16 Apples = ???

I'm now going to see if going from Royal Blue leads be back to where I started: Blood Red.

Royal Blue + Apples can = Regal Purple (most common), Abyssal Blue (uncommon) or Midnight Blue (seems rare, happened to my hubby last night. No others reports of it)

[Aisu_Kuriimu]

Going by that chart, I keep skipping over colors. Even when feeding one type of fruit and only getting one feather message.

Yes, that happened to me too. I went from Snow White to Celeste Green, skipping over Ice Blue.

Just using Doman plums, and feeding one at a time, 1 minute apart.

1st Feeding

Starting color: Desert Yellow
Fruit: 7 Doman plums
Result: Sylph Green

Stable condition: Good
Rank: 9

[10:30]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[10:30]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[10:31]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[10:32]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[10:33]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[10:34]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[10:35]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[10:36]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[10:36]Marshmallo is beginning to grow new feathers!
[10:36]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 49 minutes.

2nd Feeding

Starting color: Sylph Green
Fruit: 7 Doman plums
Result: Snow White

Stable condition: Good
Rank: 9

[16:43]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[16:43]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[16:44]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[16:45]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[16:46]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[16:47]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[16:48]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[16:49]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[16:49]Marshmallo is beginning to grow new feathers!
[16:49]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 54 minutes.
[22:47]Marshmallo has grown a new coat of feathers!

3rd Feeding

Starting color: Snow White
Fruit: 4 Doman plums
Result: Celeste Green --> skipped Ice Blue

Stable condition: Good
Rank: 9

[23:16]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[23:16]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[23:17]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[23:18]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[23:19]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[23:19]Marshmallo is beginning to grow new feathers!
[23:19]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 54 minutes.
[12:47]Marshmallo has grown a new coat of feathers!

4th Feeding

Starting color: Celeste Green
Fruit: 10 Doman plums
Result: Sky Blue

Stable condition: Good
Rank: 9

*Note: I missed the 1 minute increments on a few of these because I was on a conference call.... shhhhh!

[13:13]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:13]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[13:15]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:16]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:17]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:18]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:19]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:20]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:22]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:23]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:24]Marshmallo devours the Doman plum.
[13:24]Marshmallo is beginning to grow new feathers!
[13:24]Marshmallo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 54 minutes.
[22:04]Marshmallo has grown a new coat of feathers!

[Angelusdemonus]

Royal Blue + Apples can = Regal Purple (most common), Abyssal Blue (uncommon) or Midnight Blue (seems rare, happened to my hubby last night. No others reports of it)

Yup yup.

I'm interested to see where it goes, considering I came from the Pear Line (Moss Green) --> Berry line (end at royal blue), to see if there is any difference in results going up apple, or if it will go as predicted. Either result will be fun to see.

...Unless I get like, Snow White. Then we can all rage quit at this.

[LyricalMelody]

Yes, that happened to me too. I went from Snow White to Celeste Green, skipping over Ice Blue.

My notes on my spreadsheet say this for Snow White:
+ Pear = Sylph Green
+ Plums = Ice Blue or Celeste Green
+ Berries = Ice Blue
+ Berries = Celeste Green
+ Berries can HQ Lotus Pink
+ Valfruit = Lotus Pink

As we gather more data it seems that many colors have a chance to go to one of a few colors. There seems to be sort of a common-uncommon-rare type of chance as to which color it will be.

[Ravenloft]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2398960

Argh.. Guess I know what I'm doing next.

Not Apples or Valfruit from Rolanberry... Pears now and coming from the red side.

Now I just hope those Valfruit somehow dumped me back down to Sunset Orange, but I doubt it.

[Shika]

Pity you didn't wait between feather procs. Would be very valuable to know what the colour -between- Currant Purple and Soot Black is. If anyone knows, please share!

By the way Snootles... I ended up back at Currant Purple from Deepwood Green after feeding a Valfruit. So, I have given George one pear this time, and received the "growing new feathers" from that single pear. I will let you know what colour it changes to.

So close a few times - Marsh Green + 1 Berry gave me Deepwood Green, and the Deepwood Green + 1 Valfruit (which I expected to give me Soot Black or Void Blue) gave me the Currant Purple again.
Starting to think that my chocobo just doesn't want to go Soot Black XD

[Boomerz]

By the way Snootles... I ended up back at Currant Purple from Deepwood Green after feeding a Valfruit. So, I have given George one pear this time, and received the "growing new feathers" from that single pear. I will let you know what colour it changes to.

So close a few times - Marsh Green + 1 Berry gave me Deepwood Green, and the Deepwood Green + 1 Valfruit (which I expected to give me Soot Black or Void Blue) gave me the Currant Purple again.
Starting to think that my chocobo just doesn't want to go Soot Black XD

Hi Shika. From Currant Purple, I recommend 3 apples, 3 pears, and 1 berry all in one feeding to get soot black. Let me know if this works!

[Randelmire]

Hi, just wanted to report something I didn't find anywhere else yet :

Sunset Orange + Mamook Peer (10x, got 1 "new feathers" message) = Pumpkin Orange

[Magnesium02]

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I have updated the text according to what you've said Snootles, this one is better resolution aswell, uploaded by imgur.

What I've seen as well from your data snootles is that several of the food evens out each other, Plums seems to have brought people back a color several times after feeding berries, pineapple and apple, which seems kinda odd. Can it be that plums evens out all 3 of those fruits?

You also said I missed to add something from your data, I only found the morbol green one, can you pinpoint me to which others I'm missing?

Also heads up, I'm going on holiday on Friday for 10 days so I wont be able to do any updates for 10 days after Friday.

Here has been my leveling path so far. I'm planning to get some kind of grey, but atm just having fun with it and testing out directions

Start			Result		Fruit Fed	Qty to feather message
Desert Yellow		Milicorn Yellow	Apple		3
Milicorn Yellow		Pumpkin Orange	Apple		8
Pumpkin Orange		-		Apple		None - 9 fed switched fruit
Pumpkin Orange		Coeurl Yellow	Pear		8
Coeurl Yellow		Pumpkin Orange	Berry		1
Pumpkin Orange		Sunset Orange	Berry		3
Sunset Orange		Blood Red	Berry		6
Blood Red		Regal Purple	Berry		5
Regal Purple		Dalamud Red	Valfruit	6
Dalamud Red		Regal Purple	Berry		1
Regal Purple		-		Valfruit	None - 13 fed, switched fruit
Regal Purple		Plum Purple	Plum		4
Plum Purple		Lavender Purple	Plum		7
Lavender Purple		Colibri pink	Pineapple	8
Colibri pink				Pear		5

[Tyrfina]

The form works by calculating distances between points in 3 dimensional space with minimums and maximums set at 0 and 255, respectively. I treat RED, GREEN, and BLUE as x, y, and z coordinates. ... As we move, the spreadsheet calculates the distance to the CLOSEST dye.

That's awesome. I actually contemplated what the colors/fruits system would look like in a 3 dimensional cartesian coordinate system, but i didn't have the time yet to examine the observational data to validate the hypothesis. What kind of accuracy are you getting?

So far from what I can see, the colours are presets with RNG involved. Yes, these presets seem to be based on RGB but it's not exact -at all-.

While I can't tell you if Boomerz's approach is correct, I can say that it is a step in the right direction. From a programmer's perspective (me): while the spreadsheets and charts might be useful for most people to see and predict how they go from one color to another, it would make almost no sense to write code which WORKED in this fashion. It would be obscure, and frankly a coding clusterf***. While it is easier to SEE it as walking a color tree, there is a SYSTEM in place. A mathematical formula which determines what color you arrive at, we just haven't figured it out yet. But this theory seems extremely promising.