Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Laveah]

So I've been doing mine in steps, counting feathers messages etc, and i was working my way towards Celeste green. This morning I woke up to find my chocobo was snow white, and it was done with a lot less fruits than people are feeding their chocos currently, so I thought I'd hop on and post how I started at the base desert yellow.

1) 6x doman plum (2 feather messages) = Cream yellow
2) 3x doman plum (3 feather messages) = Bone white
3) 3x doman plum (2 feather messages) = Snow white.

i got mines in 2 6hr feeds. 1 6hr - started at desert yellow fed 4x plums (feather messages on 3rd&4th feed) =sylph green. 2nd 6hr - started at sylph green fed 8x plums(feather message on last feed) = snow white..... this is getting interesting. hope we can figure something out soon. I just want a colibri pink choco

[Xethy]

i got mines in 2 6hr feeds. 1 6hr - started at desert yellow fed 4x plums (feather messages on 3rd&4th feed) =sylph green. 2nd 6hr - started at sylph green fed 8x plums(feather message on last feed) = snow white..... this is getting interesting. hope we can figure something out soon. I just want a colibri pink choco

Our two make no sense at all when compared! hehe

[Mtoasty]

I did 2 Apples from Othard Blue and got feather message to Storm Blue. I have now fed 4 more Apples and received my feather message and will see in the morning!

I got Royal Blue after the 4 pears. I saw someone said to try more yellow so after 3 Pears I got a feather message so I will see in 6 hours.

[Gilgameshkun]

I got Royal Blue after the 4 pears. I saw someone said to try more yellow so after 3 Pears I got a feather message so I will see in 6 hours.

im confused, your first post said at storm blue you then feed apples. Now you say you feed pears?

[Hulan]

A very basic question, but an important one ---

How was the RGB numbers derived in the original sheet? In other words, how were those figures verified that is consistant with the in game color?

I did not do it myself, and I cannot say for sure, but from what the original Spreadsheet creator said, I believe it was obtained with screenshots of the Dye Interface and a color picker in some Photoshop variant. It's actually fairly clever to do it that way, the UI element is not affected by game lighting or conditions, and because the color was maintained internally between programs, the HSV of the color should have remained exactly what they actually were from the game's perspective. If I'm correct about his methods, those numbers should be 100% accurate to what the game actually uses.

[Jayne422]

I love the information we're gathering everyone and how it's helping you all to work on your theories. I updated the OP with links to experiments, more theory posts, requests for volunteers, volunteers who have offered their services, etc. I also condensed some of the information down using the Hide feature so that the post wouldn't be so long.

[LyricalMelody]

I love the information we're gathering everyone and how it's helping you all to work on your theories. I updated the OP with links to experiments, more theory posts, requests for volunteers, volunteers who have offered their services, etc. I also condensed some of the information down using the Hide feature so that the post wouldn't be so long.

Could I get my Data Gathering project listed, please?
Link to my post

[SetoKaiba]

Makes sense. I was half asleep just shoving food down it's throat at this point. Remind me not to do things at 5am.
Anyway, since it wasn't going to change, I took my bird out of the stable, then put it back in and tried again:
Starting Colour: Honey Yellow
1 Doman Plum > "New feathers" (This made me facepalm hard)
2 Doman Plum > "New Feathers"
15 O'Ghomoro Berries > Each one had a new feathers notice.
I will post result when he's ready!

Result: Meadow Green
Fed him 1 Doman Plum, got the feather message again, so I'm just gonna wait this one out.

[Sento-Frost]

Just a theory :

When you feed your chocobo you can get a "growing feathers" message. Once you got it you *always* get it in the same session. I think it's just to notify we fed our chocobo enough for him to pass a step, and change color, and that's why it's always displayed after the first one.

In my opinion, all feeds are effective, but only a certain amount will allow to pass to another color.
It also means that the 2nd message and the other ones are just a repetition of the first, so furthest messages are irrelevant to the effectiveness or not of the last given fruits !

I don't think it's relevant to note "growing feathers" messages like that. Either people STOP feeding the chocobo and wait to see each color each time it says "growing feathers" to really note when fruit counted as a big step, either it's no use.

PS: some people have noted the message went away after feeding a lot, I think that's just because they went back to current chocobo color with all their feedings ^^

[cearka]

Cearka
Does the rounding makes sense? F0 for red made it look terribly close to Colibri Pink, but on the other hand I can't add another unit to FF, so it' not exactly a rounding either.

Canadane's recipie is -12 r, -12 g, -6 b (only counting new feathers messages)
With your theory it would be +2/3 r, +2 g, +10 b

Either something is wrong with my rounding or I can't seem to get the blue to less than 10 berries. Even going the other way around, it would still be -10.

Your rounding seems fine. In the case of the FF because there so close to flipping over, we Round them back down to F0. Its ok if its close to another color. Under this theory the idea it to try to get in ball park and then go from there, not necessary to hit the target color spot on. As long as you get something numerically close it shouldn't take more then one or two feedings of 1-2 fruit to hit the color you want.

So

D0B050
F0D0F0

D=>F: +2
B=>D: +2
5=>F: +10, so lets go the other way, (F=>5: -6)

2 Apples, 2 Pears, 6 Pineapples. In theory that should get you numerically close if blue actually loops around.

A little more explanation. Your always going to count UP. when I say go the other way I mean swap the target and source.

Remember, the count is in this order:
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F

After F you go back to 0.

It may or may not be as straight forward as that though. I've been reading some other peoples theories
where some of the fruits do multiple things at once, which then really complicates stuff.