Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Crankysorc]

The spreadsheet I'm collecting data for is up.

Going through this thread now to find posts listing the number of feather procs, I've gone through most of the other thread and only found a handful.

Hopefully this helps someone test if matching the same number of procs is the important thing. I'll get to adding images of the chocobos later today or tomorrow as I don't think that's the most important thing atm.

Edit: Finished going through this thread. Anything that was worded a little iffy wasn't included.

[ZReport]

The spreadsheet I'm collecting data for is up.

Going through this thread now to find posts listing the number of feather procs, I've gone through most of the other thread and only found a handful.

Hopefully this helps someone test if matching the same number of procs is the important thing. I'll get to adding images of the chocobos later today or tomorrow as I don't think that's the most important thing atm.

Edit: Finished going through this thread. Anything that was worded a little iffy wasn't included.

Is a very good table. I've placed my own collected data in a different way:

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Blue Shift:

<- Cieldalaes Pineapple | O'Ghomoro Berries ->

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Honey Yellow
Desert Yellow
Cork Brown/Ul Brown
Ul Brown/Aldgoat Brown
Gobbiebag Brown
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Shale Brown (7th Message)
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Lilac Purple
Lavender Purple (17th Message)
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Royal Blue (Claim of 22 or 23 Berry Messages)

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Red Shift:

<- Doman Plum | Xelphatol Apple ->

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Sylph Green
Desert Yellow
???/Millioncorn Yellow
Millioncorn Yellow
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Break here in the data.  Needs filling.

Pumpkin Orange (START)
Sunset Orange (One Message)

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Green Shift:

<- Valfruit | Mamook Pear ->

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Cork Brown
Ul Brown/Rose Pink
Salmon Pink
Desert Yellow
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Lime Green
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Extra:

Othard Blue -> Storm Blue = x1 Xelphatol Apple Message
Coeurl Yellow -> Lime Green = x1 Mamook Pear Message
Honey Yellow -> Cream Yellow = x1 Doman Plum Message (??)
Cream Yellow -> Snow White = x10 Valfruit Message -> x6 Doman Plum Message
Blood Red -> Dalamud Red = x1 O'Ghomoro Berries Message
Celeste Green -> Sky Blue =  x1 O'Ghomoro Berries Message
Bone White -> Snow White = x1 Doman Plum Message

Possible Color Caps: 
Royal Blue

Unfortunately everyone is going nuts on feeding it multiple things without recording proper data, so it's gonna be hard to get a 1:1 feeding basis.

Daily limits are dumb. Thanks for posting that, ServerCollaps. I saw it on Cranky's document but was hoping someone else could confirm. This might mean that all color changes have a possible "secondary" color as well. I recorded two other instances.

[Crankysorc]

Is a very good table. I've placed my own collected data in a different way:

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Unfortunately everyone is going nuts on feeding it multiple things without recording proper data, so it's gonna be hard to get a 1:1 feeding basis.

Thanks, and yeah. The first few pictures of the chocobos were so slight, everyone just started throwing as much as they could to get bigger variations. I have a feeling it'll take a while to get the lowest common denominator for each color.

[ServerCollaps]

Is a very good table. I've placed my own collected data in a different way:



Unfortunately everyone is going nuts on feeding it multiple things without recording proper data, so it's gonna be hard to get a 1:1 feeding basis.

mine became desert yellow -> millioncorn yellow after 1 xelphatol apple plume message
recording the list it should take 2 apples, but it diddnt

[Crankysorc]

mine became desert yellow -> millioncorn yellow after 1 xelphatol apple plume message
recording the list it should take 2 apples, but it diddnt

I've got a listing of one instance 1 apple, one of 2. Either someone misreported or there's another factor we're missing.

[ZReport]

I've got a listing of one instance 1 apple, one of 2. Either someone misreported or there's another factor we're missing.

It's probably not a missing factor but the fact that every color change has a possibility of becoming one of two colors. From what has been happening it's only happened with the first few feeds. So of course only time will tell.

[Schaeffa]

The spreadsheet I'm collecting data for is up.

Beautiful chart. Love it!

I did notice a possible discrepancy, though. In the other spreadsheet (that's essentially useless now since we're all pretty damn sure it's based on feather procs and not total number of feeds), two combinations for Lavender Blue/Purple were reported: 15 berries total and 17 berries total. Your chart has 17 berry procs listed for the same color. Someone had to be false-reporting to one of the spreadsheets, though I can't be sure which.

[Crankysorc]

Beautiful chart. Love it!

I did notice a possible discrepancy, though. In the other spreadsheet (that's essentially useless now since we're all pretty damn sure it's based on feather procs and not total number of feeds), two combinations for Lavender Blue/Purple were reported: 15 berries total and 17 berries total. Your chart has 17 berry procs listed for the same color. Someone had to be false-reporting to one of the spreadsheets, though I can't be sure which.

I got it from this post. As of now, not sure if you need to do the colors in different feeding sessions or not, so a few of the colors are cumulative fruits. If it's shown that it doesn't work that way, I'll remove those ones.

I have a hunch that they both could technically be correct and it might take an extra fruit or two if you split up sessions.

[Schaeffa]

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That makes sense. That'll need some testing—to see if a color gets "locked-in" when it says the feathers are changing or when the six hours are up. Maybe starting from Desert Yellow and continually stopping at the first feather change won't give you the same results as seeing the same amount of feather changes in one feeding.
Though someone may beat me to it, once my berries are done growing tomorrow night, I can feed until I get 17 feather changing messages and see if I end up at Lavender Blue/Purple. =) I'm trying for Plum Purple and I was saying to myself that 17 would be a good number to try for that anyway. =P

Relevant to this conversation! Someone just posted that they got Lavender Purple with 13 feather changes (out of 15 total berries fed).

[Crankysorc]

That makes sense. That'll need some testing—to see if a color gets "locked-in" when it says the feathers are changing or when the six hours are up. Maybe starting from Desert Yellow and continually stopping at the first feather change won't give you the same results as seeing the same amount of feather changes in one feeding.
Though someone may beat me to it, once my berries are done growing tomorrow night, I can feed until I get 17 feather changing messages and see if I end up at Lavender Blue/Purple. =) I'm trying for Plum Purple and I was saying to myself that 17 would be a good number to try for that anyway. =P

I'm so tempted to level a few alts just to test things like this and be able to record it exactly how I want.
I have plum purple and really want Colibri. Let me know if you overshoot it so I can try to figure out what kind of color it even counts as ;_;

Edit: Well jesus christ. Maybe there's a certain number of fruits you need to get the proc to progress to a new color. Seems a little odd that the berries would jump so quickly from lavender to royal blue if that's the case, however.


Also, at the post above, I feel like I've seen a few reports of people not getting the message anymore for anything besides apples once they get royal blue. Too sleepy right now to hunt for the posts u_u