14 Hour Atma Challenge and Echo Challenge

[DarkStar]

From what I understand from a friend, the Atma Challenge is the Dev Team is trying to get all 12 Atmas in just 14 hours. I honestly don't think it'll happen, and I won't count it if they claim they got them all across all their characters. At least one of them has to be able to get an Atma Relic at the end of those 14 hours for me to be willing to count it as a success.

O' course, I'm just one random dude on the forums who's butthurt about the Atma drop rates, so my opinion doesn't really matter. ;p

[Alistaire]

From what I understand from a friend, the Atma Challenge is the Dev Team is trying to get all 12 Atmas in just 14 hours. I honestly don't think it'll happen, and I won't count it if they claim they got them all across all their characters. At least one of them has to be able to get an Atma Relic at the end of those 14 hours for me to be willing to count it as a success.

O' course, I'm just one random dude on the forums who's butthurt about the Atma drop rates, so my opinion doesn't really matter. ;p

This will be so beautiful if none of them get any.

[TomodachiDesu]

This will be so beautiful if none of them get any.

they just got the first one :O

[Kaethra]

From what I understand from a friend, the Atma Challenge is the Dev Team is trying to get all 12 Atmas in just 14 hours. I honestly don't think it'll happen, and I won't count it if they claim they got them all across all their characters. At least one of them has to be able to get an Atma Relic at the end of those 14 hours for me to be willing to count it as a success.

O' course, I'm just one random dude on the forums who's butthurt about the Atma drop rates, so my opinion doesn't really matter. ;p

Its definitely possible. A friend of mine was able to get their Atma weapon on the same day they got their Zenith. They were able to do it in 13 hours. Our guildmates were pretty envious to say the least

[Ghishlain]

Its definitely possible. A friend of mine was able to get their Atma weapon on the same day they got their Zenith. They were able to do it in 13 hours. Our guildmates were pretty envious to say the least

Yep, definitely possible. Same thing happened with my FC leader. Got all Atma in a weekend (I believe 12 hours total of farming). Rest of us were envious at the luck, heh.

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Is there a separate stream for the Atma farming that I just don't know where to find since I'm blind? Or is the one stream going on now at here the only one? I know of the Twitch / Nico streams broadcasting the same thing.

[EDIT] N/M, just found it on Niconico =D

[DarkStar]

@Ghishlain and Kaethra: I'm not saying it's impossible, I just think that such occasions are exceptions, and not the rule. I personally got all of my atmas in about a week, though most of that was spent on just one, the Eastern Thanalan Atma.

[Ghishlain]

@Ghishlain and Kaethra: I'm not saying it's impossible, I just think that such occasions are exceptions, and not the rule. I personally got all of my atmas in about a week, though most of that was spent on just one, the Eastern Thanalan Atma.

Indeed, let us see if the poor sap doing this will break the record books =p

For me personally, I believe I put a week and a half into my Atma farm, including about 16 hours (12 hours straight at one point) at North Shroud. I was determined to get it since it was my last Atma (of course the final Atma would take the longest, Murphy is most certainly alive and well, heh)

[Kaethra]

@Ghishlain and Kaethra: I'm not saying it's impossible, I just think that such occasions are exceptions, and not the rule. I personally got all of my atmas in about a week, though most of that was spent on just one, the Eastern Thanalan Atma.

I don't think they are the exception. And here's why:

During their 13 hour quest for their atma, my friend was in constant communication with the Free Company and with a couple of friends on Teamspeak. That alone is going to make the time go by fast. Another friend tried to get his atma in a day and got 1 within 7 hours.

Did the second one just get unlucky? No actually.

Here's what happened, he'd do 1 or 2 fates and then go afk and come back and then run one or two fates. He also ran a couple of dungeons and did some other things. In 7 hours he maybe did like 6 Fates. Our friend who got their Atmas in 13 hours was doing 6 fates in a half hour or less. So it has to do more with effort.

Does this mean the drop rate is fine? I dunno, what is fine? That's up for the devs to figure out. Do they intend for it to take 14 hours of nonstop (and I mean really Non-stop) fate grinding? Do they know most will take breaks and space it out? They need to communicate their intention to us. I mean if they expect us to casually run it and get 1-2 Atmas a day with 3-4 hours of work a day. Then it works.

But they also have to ask, "is it fun?" Now that's definitely up for discussion. We've all heard the quote, "The Journey is the Destination." Which means there is something fun to do along the way. I don't believe a grind is fun. I really don't. If I can complete a fate, I can complete 3000 more. Does that mean I should be expected to?

Some people claim that such concerns are coming from people who are "lazy and don't wish to work for a reward." Well no crap.. I don't want to work. I'm here to play a game not work. I work to get paid, I play to have fun (especially when I'm paying for that fun). But on the other hand, playing a game means an effort of progression to win. That effort in itself does not need to be repetitively boring. Repetitively addicting and fun is something different. And thats what probably needs to change about Atma, at least in my opinion.

Whenever a developer creates a reward that requires effort to achieve. They should look at the effort and ensure that it in itself is fun. Idealy it should be fun enough that the reward is just icing on the cake. For example look at the dungeons in Legend of Zelda. You always get a heart container at the end. But you play the game to explore and master the dungeons. The reward at the end is just gravy on top of that. Thats where many mechanics in MMOs seem to lose.

So again I will say this, if I can kill 5 mobs, I can kill 50, I can kill 500, and I can kill 5,000 of them. After gettng 5, I don't need to be tested further. So with that said, I do believe that the Atma Fate grind should be retooled.

As you can see, I'm playing a heavy devil's advocate here