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    KrenianKandos's Avatar
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    Krenian Kandos
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    Can anyone explain to me the rationale...

    ...of putting a daily Mark in a FATE that can take up to 4 hours to spawn?

    I can 'somewhat' understand the Animus Books and having them linked to the FATE system.

    But daily marks? Marks to farm on a daily basis when I have, say, 4 hours, and RNG kicks me in the gnards and doesn't spawn? Really?

    Ugh. Just. Ugh. /endrant
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    I don't even bother with those Fate Marks, doesn't seem worth it. Just join a hunt group in PF and you'll be ok.
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    It's like sometimes people have some good ideas, but then they keep getting implemented in bad ways. I think there were a bunch of people asking for certain fate bosses to drop seals, but the suggestion was always framed in the context of the older hunt system. So it'd be something you saw and said "oh, I can go do that fate for some bonus points" as opposed to "I have to wait here in order to get my daily seals."
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    Syanonn Rias
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    What they said.

    Joining a hunt party will give you more allied seals, do your dailies/weeklies when the A is open in the zones you need.
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    aww.....what's wrong? can't get your instant gratification? TOUGH NUGGETS! You've had a cake-walk for lvls 1-50 on basically all your jobs/classes, time to ACTUALLY WORK FOR SOMETHING FOR ONCE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootaloo View Post
    aww.....what's wrong? can't get your instant gratification? TOUGH NUGGETS! You've had a cake-walk for lvls 1-50 on basically all your jobs/classes, time to ACTUALLY WORK FOR SOMETHING FOR ONCE!
    Hahaha rofl. The whole point of dailies is instant gratification. Gives you a reason to log in everyday and get something done quickly. Not stand around for hours hoping a fate pops. Thanks for the laugh though.
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    Player Gemma's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootaloo View Post
    time to ACTUALLY WORK FOR SOMETHING FOR ONCE!
    Omg waiting for a FATE to pop is so much work, but its ok I be awesome...
    /endsarcasm

    The point is some FATEs take an absurd amount of time, it's not even "working" or "hunting"! It's waiting lol
    Personally I feel like B should be Daily, get rid of the FATE ones and make it the normal mobs plus a B for 50 seals a day (total of 62 seals a day).
    That way we can actually start killing the Bs again & people that don't want to have to deal with the jerks in hunt parties can still earn seals at a reasonable rate. Win for everyone imo ^_^b
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    Player Scootaloo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemma View Post
    Omg waiting for a FATE to pop is so much work, but its ok I be awesome...
    /endsarcasm

    The point is some FATEs take an absurd amount of time, it's not even "working" or "hunting"! It's waiting lol
    Personally I feel like B should be Daily, get rid of the FATE ones and make it the normal mobs plus a B for 50 seals a day (total of 62 seals a day).
    That way we can actually start killing the Bs again & people that don't want to have to deal with the jerks in hunt parties can still earn seals at a reasonable rate. Win for everyone imo ^_^b
    And I suppose you think the same thing of "Atma Hunting" too right? You have to "wait around" for the fate to pop that gives you the Atma.../eyeroll

    Players these days, can't tell the difference between working for something and getting it baby-fed to them because MMO makers can't seem to create a challenging game anymore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootaloo View Post
    And I suppose you think the same thing of "Atma Hunting" too right? You have to "wait around" for the fate to pop that gives you the Atma.../eyeroll

    Players these days, can't tell the difference between working for something and getting it baby-fed to them because MMO makers can't seem to create a challenging game anymore...
    Well, if it was "do this specific Fate and you'll get your atma stone", I guess it'd be sort of the same. If you needed a couple of hundreds of atma stones to do anything with them, at least. But with Atma hunting, it doesn't matter WHICH Fate you do: it just needs to be in the right region/map. So you're not just waiting around, even if doing low-level Fates can be mind-numbingly boring at times. And if you get tired of it you can take a break from it and continue another day, since the Atma quest doesn't have a reset time.

    For these daily hunt marks, you know precisely which Fate you need to do to get your 10 seals and you know where that Fate spawns. And at least half of the time you either won't get anything worthwhile from doing other Fates in the area (wrong area, don't have zenith yet, already got your atma weapon, already have atma stone for that area, don't have any other classes to level up anymore....you name it) so all you do is sit there in one spot and wait. Sure, you can go do other things, but then you risk that the Fate spawns while you're away, and you'll have to wait for just as long when you return. And you have to do your two Fates before 3pm GMT the next day or you won't be able to pick up the next daily hunts without discarding the current ones.

    That's not working. That's not difficult -- other than the struggle to hold on to your patience and/or avoid falling asleep in your chair.

    At least with the B marks (now that the zerg rush on those is over) there is a certain element of hunting to it, since you need to find where it's spawned.
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    Player Gemma's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootaloo View Post
    Players these days, can't tell the difference between working for something and getting it baby-fed to them because MMO makers can't seem to create a challenging game anymore...
    And Hipsters nowadays really can't tell the difference between actually fun content and mind numbing content that takes forever.
    Atma is not the same as hunts. Like said above you run around doing every fate that pops for atma, that was fine. But waiting 3+ hours for ONE fate for 10 seals, is not working for anything, its just wasting time that you could go out and kill one A hunt and, Oh! look you double what you would have gotten for the fate... -_-

    Face it you are the minority in this debate, it seems most people agree that the Fate aspect of Hunts really is not hunting at all & should be addressed.
    Also I totally just realized you're on my server -_- *sigh*

    I really don't see why you are trying to argue it, how making B rank a daily instead of a weekly effects you negatively idk.
    Maybe you're just one of those people who has way too much time on their hands & enjoys these waste of time content but a lot of us would actually like to DO something instead of watching Netflix waiting for 1 FATE...
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    Last edited by Gemma; 08-28-2014 at 01:24 AM.

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