14 Hour Atma Challenge and Echo Challenge

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got my first atma weapon after 30 hours of farm and my 2nd after 7 hours

I dont think its a fake, most ppl just cant farm efficient

[Millerna]

I think the only thing they did for the event was to increase the rate the fates spawned somewhat, they didn't up the drop chance or anything. There were people running the fates together with the devs during the event, and some of those people got all atma as well, while others only got a few of them.

[melflomil]

I wouldn't call the developers a lie they had about 200 other people doing fates so they got through them quickly. Now a day there are about 10 people per zone doing atmas so it feelso longer, But it is time for a drop rate increase from 5% to about 25%. Unidentified tomestones have about 30% chance of dropping itn ST and I see that often

[ariaandkia]

Yeah, I think the real problem lies in that many people rush the newest content so the older content gets ignored except by people with a large group of friends already established. However, that means newer players end up being left behind. I think they should adjust the RNG based on participation.

For example: If you did 100% of the Fate by yourself, then you should have a higher chance of getting the item than if you say got only a bronze. And you should have a lower chance if all you did was a drive-by scathe or something.

As for me, I've given up. I have a skill called "worst luck possible."

On the one item I'm looking for, I roll a need roll... 1. The other healer, despite there being a once per week limit, also rolled. And won with a 2. Same match, both healers in our party kept getting frozen over and over, leaving the party with no healers.

An earthquake hits and so I'm disconnected from FF14. Right around the same time, the PSN network went down because of the attacks. I ended up being locked out of FF14 for essentially the entire day-my free day.

In another game, with a 1% chance of failure, I managed to fail over 1000 times in a row. Like, closer to 10000 times in a row. I still think a GM was messing with me...

And so on.

Then you have my partner who was absurdly lucky. With a less than 1% chance of success, always succeeded. Never had any real worries of their own. Goes into a dungeon once and gets the super rare drop that they were in the dungeon for. Goes to farm a monster for a super rare item with a 0.00000125% drop rate (That was the listed drop rate). Gets it at LEAST 90 times in a row and completely murdered the market for the item by giving the item away.

So that is why I don't like RNG. There is so little information on RNG without looking into the actual code that you can't really accurately use the LaPlace's Demon Theory to figure out the result. And if I rely on luck, I will always get the worst result possible.

[Itseotle]

I've become so cynical about atma's, I believe this entire 14 hour event is just a fake gesture to restore hope in some players that getting atmas is possible. I think they cheated, and that's how they knew it would take 14 hours. I think any result we get from a dev doing this is dishonest and can't be trusted.

I'm almost at 1200 fates and only have 2 atma. This system is broken.

EDIT Watching the stream and the speed of which they were acquired, I'm 100000000000000000000000% positive this whole event was a farce. I don't care how fast he was going through fates, I've done more, and I didn't get them even close to that fast.

What a crock of crap. Lies everywhere. How disgusting they would lie to their players, "Look I'll do it! See! It's not so bad, right? Now you go do it."

And I hate to quote something that's been so overquoted but: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

This is so sleazy. I can't believe how tasteless this lie is.

Got my 12 (actually, got a duplicate, so 13) Atma in 12 hours back when it first came out. I'm not saying I'm the norm, I am saying I am an outcome, a possibility, and I cannot control the curtain. I am now sitting on my Novus, happily waiting for the next tier (supra?) to come out =3

I think the only thing they did for the event was to increase the rate the fates spawned somewhat, they didn't up the drop chance or anything. There were people running the fates together with the devs during the event, and some of those people got all atma as well, while others only got a few of them.

This may not be the case either. Its already been confirmed FATEs spawn faster if other FATEs are ended in quick succession. Faster kills just means faster spawn timers in this situation.

Yeah, I think the real problem lies in that many people rush the newest content so the older content gets ignored except by people with a large group of friends already established. However, that means newer players end up being left behind. I think they should adjust the RNG based on participation.

For example: If you did 100% of the Fate by yourself, then you should have a higher chance of getting the item than if you say got only a bronze. And you should have a lower chance if all you did was a drive-by scathe or something.

This is actually a good idea and I can get behind this.

[Nasibihc]

12 atma in 14 hours? I got two words: Not possible.

[Millerna]

This may not be the case either. Its already been confirmed FATEs spawn faster if other FATEs are ended in quick succession. Faster kills just means faster spawn timers in this situation.

That's probably a better explanation yes

[MeiUshu]

after two weeks of farming Atma's non stop at a rate of 8-10h a day every day and almost 18h over the 2 week-ends included in the two weeks and got NO Atmas whatsoever, I tried everything, backwards forwards, up and down, left and right, day night rainy day boss and non boss, and no result whatsoever. Since by doing fates not even looking for atmas, I got 3 atmas of which 2x Lion.

What is the point in such ? time sinking ? not worth it. Also, are they testing our reality or are they testing a possible future implementation of Atma's grinding ? Afterall, it isnt in the Japanese mentality to admit so obviously that there was something wrong in what they programmed, no offence meant right.

Mei

[Itseotle]

Afterall, it isnt in the Japanese mentality to admit so obviously that there was something wrong in what they programmed

I am going to quote you here and show you why your statement is, not only very sterotypical, but not correct either.

I still remember the start of service in August, and the unforeseen server congestion and login issues that followed. We not only had to restrict character creation and logins, but we even suspended digital sales. While thrilled with the game’s incredible reception, again, I sincerely apologize for the terrible inconvenience this caused.

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...13#post2396113

[MeiUshu]

it is easy to answer to you....it is stereotypical as you say, because simply it is part of their culture, not losing face is part of their culture so yes you are right is stereotyped, also you saying is not true I would say is taking the exceptions as a majority dont you think or you are telling me that they admit readily when they are wrong when they have to look the world and say so ?...

It isnt something invented it is not wrong either, it is who they are, more so when it involves foreigners (understand others outside of Japan) ...I dont judge them I just say that rather then admit publically that something is wrong until they can no nore do otherwise, of course, they will find means and ways to turn that around...in a way we would all do the same, just some cultures more then others, in our particular case aka Atmas, I dont believe it is that easy to get 12 atmas in 14hours unless the guy is EXTREMELY lucky, a real test is to have such done by different people not only one, and I still believe that in this particular case the outcome might be adjusted for lack of better words to suit the purpose.

This is my opinion of course, you dont have to agree with it.


Mei