Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Zenaku]

If someone wants Soot Black, you can try a theory I derivated from post #81 and a bit of observation on my chocobo (staple is in "good" state)
1st session : 17 Berries
2nd session : 2 Apples then 7 Pears
3rd session : 1 Berry

Hardcore version :
1st session : 22 Berries
2nd session : 8 Apples then 7 Pears
3rd session : 1 Berry


I'd test it myself but I have a lot of friends to provide fruits with and that's not the color I want ^^
Please don't be mad if I'm wrong...

Edit: theory is based on the fact fruits give this kind of bonus / malus in RGB notation, capped to 0/255 of course (that's why order matters !)
Berry (-7,5,-7,5,1)
Pineapple (7,5,7,5,-1)
Apple (1,-7,5,-7,5)
Plum (-1,7,5,7,5)
Pear (-7,5,1,-7,5)
Valfruit (7,5,-1,7,5)

Quick question which of the two you think may end up being black? hardcore version or normal? I can test out normal now and see what happens in 18hours. Or just wait for more blue to grow and do the hardcore version.

[Angelusdemonus]

Hey all, would like to add my progress.

I'm aiming for a blue color...specifically Raptor, but I semi screwed myself by not planting enough berries. My FC used them up by the first feeding, so while I wait for my berries to finish up (tomorrow probably), I tried to see if I could get to the blue palette through other means. (I have not been successful yet).

Here is my results thus far:

(Desert Yellow) - Used 12 Berries --> New Feathers after the 3rd feed, and all feeds after
Used 10 Pineapples -> New Feathers after all feeds
Used 6 Berries --> New Feathers after all feeds
Result: Ash Grey

(Ash Grey) - Used 4 Berries --> New Feathers after 1st feed, and all feeds after
Result: Goobbue Grey

(Goobbue Grey) - Used 10 Pear --> New Feathers after 4th feed, new feathers after the rest
Result: Meadow Green

(Meadow Green) - Used 6 Pineapples --> New Feathers after 3rd feed, new feathers after the rest
Result: Apple Green

(Apple Green) - Used 5 Apples --> New feathers after 5th feed
Result: Lime Green

I'm going to try two more variations, and if a blue palette doesnt show up by then, I'll be wiping the results and feeding 21 berries at desert yellow.

[Renik]

This thread is resulting more interesting than i expected, i still believe it's RGB based but i'll keep monitoring this thread

Hey all, would like to add my progress.

I'm aiming for a blue color...specifically Raptor, but I semi screwed myself by not planting enough berries. My FC used them up by the first feeding, so while I wait for my berries to finish up (tomorrow probably), I tried to see if I could get to the blue palette through other means. (I have not been successful yet).

Here is my results thus far:

(Desert Yellow) - Used 12 Berries --> New Feathers after the 3rd feed
Used 10 Pineapples -> New Feathers after all feeds
Used 6 Berries --> New Feathers after all feeds
Result: Ash Grey

(Ash Grey) - Used 4 Berries --> New Feathers after 1st feed
Result: Goobbue Grey

(Goobbue Grey) - Used 10 Pear --> New Feathers after 4th feed, new feathers after the rest
Result: Meadow Green

(Meadow Green) - Used 6 Pineapples --> New Feathers after 3rd feed, new feathers after the rest
Result: Apple Green

(Apple Green) - Used 5 Apples --> New feathers after 5th feed
Result: Lime Green

I'm going to try two more variations, and if a blue palette doesnt show up by then, I'll be wiping the results and feeding 21 berries at desert yellow.

Also , just an idea, if you're going to wipe it, try feeding large amount of berries and some plums, let's say ~10 berries until you get at least 3 messages, and plums until you get 1, i think this should lead to blue.

[Crankysorc]

Beautiful chart. Love it!

I did notice a possible discrepancy, though. In the other spreadsheet (that's essentially useless now since we're all pretty damn sure it's based on feather procs and not total number of feeds), two combinations for Lavender Blue/Purple were reported: 15 berries total and 17 berries total. Your chart has 17 berry procs listed for the same color. Someone had to be false-reporting to one of the spreadsheets, though I can't be sure which.

I got it from this post. As of now, not sure if you need to do the colors in different feeding sessions or not, so a few of the colors are cumulative fruits. If it's shown that it doesn't work that way, I'll remove those ones.

I have a hunch that they both could technically be correct and it might take an extra fruit or two if you split up sessions.

[Schaeffa]

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That makes sense. That'll need some testing—to see if a color gets "locked-in" when it says the feathers are changing or when the six hours are up. Maybe starting from Desert Yellow and continually stopping at the first feather change won't give you the same results as seeing the same amount of feather changes in one feeding.
Though someone may beat me to it, once my berries are done growing tomorrow night, I can feed until I get 17 feather changing messages and see if I end up at Lavender Blue/Purple. =) I'm trying for Plum Purple and I was saying to myself that 17 would be a good number to try for that anyway. =P

Relevant to this conversation! Someone just posted that they got Lavender Purple with 13 feather changes (out of 15 total berries fed).

[DomonKasshu]

I figured I'd post this here as well. Not sure if it will be any help.
This is my findings so far. This testing will be done with ONLY O'ghomoro Berries. (For all of my tests stables were in good condition.)

With my choco in Desert yellow, I fed my choco 1 O'Ghomoro Berry and waited 6 hours. There was no change. Nor a message.

On my next attempt I fed him 25 O'ghomoro berries. The "Feathers changed color" message appeared 23 times. The resulting color was Othard Blue.
This so far is a total of 26 total berries fed for what its worth.

On my third round of feeding I gave Kyoji 5 more berries until I got the message "Feathers changed color" again. The result this time was Royal Blue.
This is a total of 31 berries at this point.

I will now once again feed until i get another message to see if there is even another that will happen. The end goal I'm looking to achieve is Void Blue.
I will post results tonight or tomorrow.

Othard Blue


Royal Blue



Edit: I fed my choco another 12 Berries and still no change. I would appear that Royal blue is the cap if I feed nothing but berries. Or if this is RNG I have gotten unlucky. Will try to start feeding Mamook Pears next.

[Crankysorc]

That makes sense. That'll need some testing—to see if a color gets "locked-in" when it says the feathers are changing or when the six hours are up. Maybe starting from Desert Yellow and continually stopping at the first feather change won't give you the same results as seeing the same amount of feather changes in one feeding.
Though someone may beat me to it, once my berries are done growing tomorrow night, I can feed until I get 17 feather changing messages and see if I end up at Lavender Blue/Purple. =) I'm trying for Plum Purple and I was saying to myself that 17 would be a good number to try for that anyway. =P

I'm so tempted to level a few alts just to test things like this and be able to record it exactly how I want.
I have plum purple and really want Colibri. Let me know if you overshoot it so I can try to figure out what kind of color it even counts as ;_;

Edit: Well jesus christ. Maybe there's a certain number of fruits you need to get the proc to progress to a new color. Seems a little odd that the berries would jump so quickly from lavender to royal blue if that's the case, however.


Also, at the post above, I feel like I've seen a few reports of people not getting the message anymore for anything besides apples once they get royal blue. Too sleepy right now to hunt for the posts u_u

[Schaeffa]

I'm so tempted to level a few alts just to test things like this and be able to record it exactly how I want.
I have plum purple and really want Colibri. Let me know if you overshoot it so I can try to figure out what kind of color it even counts as ;_;

I'll definitely be submitting anything I do to your spreadsheet. And I'll be sure to take screen caps of the feeding to eliminate any errors in my memory. =)

[Schaeffa]

Ooh! A nice one on Lotus Pink for you here.

[Crankysorc]

Ooh! A nice one on Lotus Pink for you here.

That's perfect. Has a screenshot and all in one feeding.
Can possibly be done in less fruit, but this looks easy enough to replicate on my alt. I'll do that once my crops are ready I think.