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  1. #31
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    Obysuca's Avatar
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    As it is right now, some people can't train their chocobos because of a requirement that is unnecessary.
    >_> Just going to point out, there is 0 reason not to be in a FC. Way more reasons to actually be in one, besides you know, the big obvious one, that it's a mmo and mmo's have socialization.

    I laugh at the people who whine and complain about having to be in a FC to do certain things, they're only hurting themselves by refusing to join one. Like I said, there's no reason not to join one, it's also a mmo, not a single player game.
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  2. #32
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miakisaki View Post
    I'm not quite sure I follow. How would tier IV materia prices crash when supply is heavily reduced and demand continues to steadily rise? Further, how would tier III materia become the most expensive when supply for it would increase based on i70-90 now converting more often into it? If people aren't converting i70+ into IV regularly anymore, the supply will bottom out making IV materia that much more expensive. This will turn a "Perfect" Novus where Savage Aim/Might IVs are completed on it into something you only have if you are ridiculously rich or acquire gil through other malicious means.
    The majority of Tier IV materia are from i45 to i49 gear and almost all Tier IV crafting and gathering materia come from i45 to i55 gear. The conversion % on those has not changed and the speed of binding them has increased significantly, meaning a potential increase in supply. i70 and i90 items were a much less common source of Tier IV materia, but speed of bind them has increase significantly. You may be able to bind 3 or more now in the time it took to bind one previously.


    As for it being only the second day, it doesn't take much to see how anti-friendly the changes are to people playing catch-up with crafting and relics.
    This is what I mean by presumptive. You do not know how things have improved in other areas that makes it easier to get Tier IV materia and have assumed that since i70 and i90 gear no longer guarantees Tier IV materia that supplies will dry up even though they have never been a primary source of the materia.
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  3. #33
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    Baneus's Avatar
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    Baneus Prime
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    >_> Just going to point out, there is 0 reason not to be in a FC. Way more reasons to actually be in one, besides you know, the big obvious one, that it's a mmo and mmo's have socialization.

    I laugh at the people who whine and complain about having to be in a FC to do certain things, they're only hurting themselves by refusing to join one. Like I said, there's no reason not to join one, it's also a mmo, not a single player game.
    Indeed. People that take everything that SE does as a personal insult against their specific play-style are also good for a chuckle. Those people really should stick to single player games where they can choose not to apply a patch if they don't like the changes. Otherwise they really just need to suck it up and deal with it. Unless something is actually broken (not liking something doesn't mean it's broken), then it doesn't need fixing.
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

  4. #34
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    Miakisaki's Avatar
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    Shizuna Falenas
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    who was previously completely unable to do hunts of any rank due to Hardcore monopolies
    I was bitter like you once, and thought the same. Then I took the initiative to find out about the main hunting LS on Leviathan and sure enough, they were a friendly bunch that would invite anyone and everyone that asked to hunt. There were rules in place to help everyone get full credit on all ranks, and the organizers helped everyone find a group. It was something all of Leviathan could participate in, with the only limitation being the 128 player max limit for linkshells. It was a fun way to socialize and hunt with members of our server community to get to know the people on the server. We respected everyone that found and pulled mobs solo before we did. This is all gone for us now.

    Hardcore monopolies are a myth. People didn't want to bother to take any initiative to join or form healthy groups and linkshells. The only "whiners" are those people.
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  5. #35
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    Bard Lv 70
    There is ZERO reason why the sb change in overworld. NONE beside to control the supply. By remove the method of sbing i49 stuff for expert roulette and lower the chance of i70 and i90 convert rate, they effect;y lower the chance of getting the right tier iv by 50%. People LOVE multtask, what is better than, farming for vanity, daily alexnder, and sb at the same time.
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    Last edited by Xellos2099; 08-21-2014 at 06:36 AM.

  6. #36
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    Miakisaki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    This is what I mean by presumptive.
    If you have read any other SB posts, people ave been bonding 2 star gear as the price and availability of the old myth mats changed. 2.35 included a method to convert myth and allied seals into GC seals as well as use Ixali currency for mats. This would have led to even more people bonding the 2 star gear and more IV materia on the market to stabilize Aim/Might prices. SB changes remove that possibility, which I believe was the real catalyst with the i70-90 nerf.

    Most people will simply not bond anymore, because running current content to bond was the casual method in the first place. Based on my own experience at Urth's Fount in 2.35, bonding speed has barely increased on i45-49 gear. This is using HQ Electrum Rings of Crafting with a single meld and a SB potion. You can't even bond i35-39 reliably there anymore. Unless you are running old content that drops i55 or i60 gear, you will not see a speed increase. None of this is presumptive.
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  7. #37
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    Setheus Lugoves
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    Wish I had know about the SB and Materia changes in 2.35 prior to selling off a bunch of Materias a day or 2 beforehand. o.O
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  8. #38
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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    There is ZERO reason why the sb change in overworld. NONE beside to control the supply. By remove the method of sbing i49 stuff for expert roulette and lower the chance of i70 and i90 convert rate, they effect;y lower the chance of getting the right tier iv by 50%. People LOVE multtask, what is better than, farming for vanity, daily alexnder, and sb at the same time.
    Actually there was a VERY good reason why SE made the change they did. It was to stop people from running into dungeons WAY UNDERgeared and then expecting the rest of the party to carry them. I will admit that I used to SB job appropriate i50 gear in i70+ dungeons while doing roulettes. Since the change I actually find that as a serial SBer, I have BENEFITED greatly. The increased SB rate has actually helped me SB way more than I have before. The ones who have been inconvenienced are the casual SBers. Since the change was targeted towards them in the first place, I will say that SE has achieved its goal.
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  9. #39
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    There is ZERO reason why the sb change in overworld. NONE beside to control the supply. By remove the method of sbing i49 stuff for expert roulette and lower the chance of i70 and i90 convert rate, they effect;y lower the chance of getting the right tier iv by 50%. People LOVE multtask, what is better than, farming for vanity, daily alexnder, and sb at the same time.
    And you can still do that, you just can't do that in a dungeon with gear outside the range of what you should be wearing in there. You just can't farm stuff that is horribly out of range of your gear, but you can with other gear, or on other mobs.

    Lower rate for IVs off 2-3 star gear per piece, but it SBs at a highly accelerated rate. All of a sudden crafters have something to do again instead of making trivial lowbie gear.
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  10. #40
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    Shizuna Falenas
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    stop people from running into dungeons WAY UNDERgeared
    This part will not change. The fastest way to bond i45-49 gear now is to get into a dungeon that drops i55-i60 gear and then bond there. This was the wrong way to achieve that goal.

    The method that should have used was to simply make it impossible to fall under a certain ilvl with armor changes once you are inside a dungeon. Meaning people have to mix and match and choose what they bond in order to meet the minimium ilvl requirements of the dungeon, because with this fix trying to equip anything that drops you under the ilvll limit will return "Cannot equip. Item level will drop below the minimum." Which would have achieved everything needed to keep people equipped with their gear but still allow some casual spiritbonding.

    Now the open world change was absolute garbage, pure SB groups at Urth's Fount bothered absolutely nobody. There is no reasonable argument for that.
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