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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    It makes sense - Every single final fantasy game with colored chocobos that also has a raising/breeding aspect (VII, IX, XI) tied it to a content system - At present time, Chocobo 'raising' is tied to Free Companies and FC housing, so it makes 100% sense that it's 'gated' behind it. The only issue, they didn't bring in chocobo breeding to make it make even more logical sense.
    Wrong again, this makes no logical sense.

    VII and IX are single player game which means that no players were restricted from raising/breeding their chocobo and XI, while a MMO, didn't prevent you from raising a Chocobo if you were not in a Linkshell. As it is right now, some people can't train their chocobos because of a requirement that is unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Wrong again
    I see I made a new fan.

    XI, while a MMO, didn't prevent you from raising a Chocobo if you were not in a Linkshell
    Since every single reply to me you've made is: "NO U!", you forgot to read:

    tied it to a content system
    XI's was a separate CONTENT SYSTEM, the Chocobo breeding/Raising was its own entity. So why would it require a Linkshell when it already had it's own system and Linkshells did nothing in that game other than being a form of communication? In XIV, it requires FC because the Chocobo Raising is Tied to Free Company Housing/Stables.

    So until they move Chocobo Raising/Breeding onto it's own system like they did in FFVII, IX and XI, it's really hard to state it makes no sense when it actually does - you just dislike their choice, which is fine, but it does make sense given that changing your chocobo's color would generally come from some form of raising..and if it's through vegetables, the only gardening system in FFXIV is Free Company housing based.

    So unless you can point me into the direction of our personal houses or even personal mog garden....
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 08-20-2014 at 10:43 PM.

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    The spirit bonding restrictions in dungeons is going to do a lot more damage than the issue of guaranteed materia from i90s. I don't even need to go to the market to know it's broken right now. How some of this stuff makes it past QA is astonishing.

    They could have made their restrictions only apply to left side gear. Your right side spirit bonders were not the problem.
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    Chocobo training could have easily been tied to your respective Grand Company stables which is accessible by everyone.
    Exactly - Except it wasn't, so once again, how am I "wrong" and "spreading misinformation" when, as I stated, at present time it's tied to Free Company Housing, thus makes sense? Your whole post was to "correct me", after all.

    You can freely choose to ignore other viable alternatives so that it better fits your own arguments
    See? Your whole point was to just personally attack me, not to correct me as no one ignored anything as nothing was stated in terms of alternatives, but that they disliked that it was tied to it. So as I stated, point me into the direction of our personal house or gardens..otherwise your personal attack was just petty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Exactly - Except it wasn't, so once again, how am I "wrong" and "spreading misinformation" when, as I stated, at present time it's tied to Free Company Housing, thus makes sense? Your whole post was to "correct me", after all.



    See? Your whole point was to just personally attack me, not to correct me as no one ignored anything as nothing was stated in terms of alternatives, but that they disliked that it was tied to it. So as I stated, point me into the direction of our personal house or gardens..otherwise your personal attack was just petty
    It doesn't make sense to tie it to a Content System that is restrictive when there is an unrestricted one readily available. That's the issue.
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    Last edited by Dwill; 08-21-2014 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    It doesn't make sense to tie it to a Content System that is restrictive when there is an unrestricted one readily available. That's the issue.
    Even though I have an FC with medium housing I agree with this 100%. There was no good reason to tie chocobo raising into housing, other than to give people a reason to get housing. The problem is that the majority of FC in this game do not have housing so right now we have this content that everybody is dying to participate in but most people cannot participate due to lack of housing options available.

    I hope when personal housing comes out they have a hell of a lot more than 6 wards because the new fc ward is already filling up on my server and there are a hell of a lot more people than there are FCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    It doesn't make sense to tie it to a Content System that is restrictive when there is an unrestricted one readily available. That's the issue.
    I have to disagree. SE has tied lots of things into lots of different content systems for the sake of players giving lots of different things a try. Fate are connected (to an extent) to crafting by the crafting mats bought with grand company seals. This is just one example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    I have to disagree. SE has tied lots of things into lots of different content systems for the sake of players giving lots of different things a try. Fate are connected (to an extent) to crafting by the crafting mats bought with grand company seals. This is just one example.
    How is that even restrictive ? The issue isn't that it's tied to a Content System, the issue is using a restrictive Content System on something that could have achieved a similar results on an unrestricted one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    How is that even restrictive ? The issue isn't that it's tied to a Content System, the issue is using a restrictive Content System on something that could have achieved a similar results on an unrestricted one.
    To answer your question, having to do one thing in order to start or progress in another thing. Most MMOs are built that way. As far as the game developers using a restrictive content system in the first place, my guess would be to keep payers from completing tasks too quickly in the game and hurting SE's subscription based business model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    As it is right now, some people can't train their chocobos because of a requirement that is unnecessary.
    >_> Just going to point out, there is 0 reason not to be in a FC. Way more reasons to actually be in one, besides you know, the big obvious one, that it's a mmo and mmo's have socialization.

    I laugh at the people who whine and complain about having to be in a FC to do certain things, they're only hurting themselves by refusing to join one. Like I said, there's no reason not to join one, it's also a mmo, not a single player game.
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