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  1. #91
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    VicViperion's Avatar
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    Renault Valens
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    Hyperion
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    From what I've read, they completely killed casual hunting as a group activity while simultainously making the community at large zerg rush those A's even harder than ever before. This doesn't seem like a change for the better at all. In fact, all it seems like it will do, is inspire more vitriol and venom than ever before as people fight over getting those A's and S's, while B rank hunting just became, well, not very profitable at all compared to what it once was. This seems like a poorly thought out change at best, and a thinly veiled attempt to slow down the acquisition of gear by throttling the seal/myth flow. How anyone can be happy with this, I'll never know. Maybe people just enjoy grind taking even longer than it normally does.
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  2. #92
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    Wulfyn's Avatar
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    Kuda Dela'mango
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thayos View Post
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    I guess it depends on your server, unfortunately on mine it got really stupid. There was never a reason to zerg rank b's anyways. Malicious behavior abounded with hunt groups resetting B's on solo or duos atleast. Name calling blisting demanding resets etc, over what? 5 seals they felt entitled to? Keeping others from completing weekly marks? I have finished gearing up my Drg and have geared my Pld so far. Sitting on 200+ AS mostly from solo/duo/trio rank b's. Not going to affect me much as I am in no hurry, never been.
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  3. #93
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    giantslayer's Avatar
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    Colette Pascal
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I love how people are complaining that they can't get 5 seals for killing a B anymore. Did you miss the part where the daily marks are now worth either 4 or 10 a pop? Dailies are now worth about the same or twice as much as B's were before.
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  4. #94
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Uhm, hello?? Getting things at your own pace is now the right definition for the B rank, it is a great change for those who rather solo and do things with a friend or two.
    You are playing a mmorpg, you are not supposed to solo things.

    Except that if I read correctly, it only rewards seals if the B mob is in your daily hunt list, and it does not give you mythology and soldiery tome? As for the rank A and S, it does not receive any changes, so these will be hunt zerg by everyone else, and still gives you the most rewards for your buck?
    Yes. B hunts are literally handled to you, no repop, no scounting, no competition. Your warp in a zone and they are there now. And you also want myth from them? That's not how it works.

    Alliance hunt and zerg is the definition of "to have things handled to you" by simply following the pack and pray hope other group have the decency to wait for your alliance, which in most cases, not going to happen. And the name calling and blacklisting can begin again...
    And yet, it seems you and many people couldn't get even an A, hmm..
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  5. #95
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    On my server Bs weren't ignored, now that As are the only option for a continued hunt they will be killed early all the time. There will be too many people going to each A because they will be more rare and people will pull sooner since waiting for everyone will result in getting less then full credit.
    More people on less monsters = early pulls/rage or not getting full credit. That doesn't seem like a good idea to me
    yeah, these changes were made to please the people who don't hunt or can't hunt, instead of helping people who enjoyed the content.
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  6. #96
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    C'tan Shard
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by VicViperion View Post
    From what I've read, they completely killed casual hunting as a group activity while simultainously making the community at large zerg rush those A's even harder than ever before. This doesn't seem like a change for the better at all.
    I disagree, the reason the zerg was so bad is because the solo path was not a real option to get the shineys. I'll bet less people will do grouped hunting because of the new viable solo path.
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  7. #97
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    yeah, these changes were made to please the people who don't hunt or can't hunt, instead of helping people who enjoyed the content.
    Most people I know that participated in the zerg fests didn't enjoy it. They did it because the reward to effort ratio was horribly imbalanced. ie it was leaps and bounds easier than anything else.
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  8. #98
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    Renault Valens
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    I love how people are complaining that they can't get 5 seals for killing a B anymore. Did you miss the part where the daily marks are now worth either 4 or 10 a pop? Dailies are now worth about the same or twice as much as B's were before.
    I think you missed the part where someone who had a few spare hours to grind out running around with friends could make far, far more than the mere pittance of 4 to 10 marks on something locked behind a daily restriction wall.
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  9. #99
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    Volcano's Avatar
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    Infernia Heart
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Most people I know that participated in the zerg fests didn't enjoy it. They did it because the reward to effort ratio was horribly imbalanced. ie it was leaps and bounds easier than anything else.
    I agree with this, as i actually hate hunts, but i do them because the rewards are just far to great to ignore.
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  10. #100
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    There will be too many people going to each A because they will be more rare and people will pull sooner since waiting for everyone will result in getting less then full credit. More people on less monsters = early pulls/rage or not getting full credit. That doesn't seem like a good idea to me
    Yeah the developer does not seem to get the real problem here. It's great that the B rank now is the perfect solution for casual and solo players to do things at their own pace and leisure - a most welcomed change - except that these B marks should also reward mytho and soldiery tome just like before since you cannot spam the B's anymore.

    The A and S rank is the big problem, it was zerged to oblivion before and now, it will be even worse since this is the only options to get the most seals per kill.... and on top of that, it gives you boatload of tomes, rendering duty finder, once again, useless. No one in their right mind will do duty finder once the A train starts, and now you have to deal with at least 24 people x 2 on alliance - its bad enough to wait for your entire alliance to arrive - now you have to worry the other group with 8 or 16 people will pull first because they want to hop on the next A mark before some other group kills it.
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