mmorpg's review

[Naqaj]

-She thinks Guildleves are something they are not, Guildleves aren't Quests

That differentiation exists only in the heads of SE and fanboys. Guildleves are quests, with a funky name and a clumsy mechanic.

[Shipp]

I can care less about the review say i can care less if this become the next big thing in MMO history. I really don't care if FFXIV win WoW or not i just want to play a game that is not wow-clone. Everything yoshi-p talk he sound like he making this into a wow-clone then i saw the dungeon video and it does not remind me anything like wow. I hope jumping and now swimming wont remind me like wow too -.-

Why is it, that in nearly every single post, you bring up WoW? This only makes you look ignorant along with making you look like a biased fanboy. Nobody is even talking about WoW, and it doesn't even -sound- like Yoshi-P is making it into a WoW clone. Despite your lack of MMO experience, WoW didn't create those features.

2004 called, they want their bandwagon back.

[Adol]

Who cares at this point. Theres like 30 thousand of us still playing. The game is in the bargan bin for 15 buck. Its not like this review is really gonna tear down the image the average MMo player has of this game and the 30k of us still playing arent gonna quit because of the review either. Seems like a bunch of people getting worked up over something that doesnt even matter.

Indeed. Couldn't agree with this more.
I'm really surprised at all the people posting in this thread who're actually offended enough to nitpick at every part of the review and post about it here.
I'm appalled.

[Abriael]

People who aren't die-hard fans aren't going to nitpick her every word like you are anyway. They are just going to glance over the article and take in the general gist of what it's saying. And generally speaking you can't fault the article.

Lol. Generally speaking there are tens of ways you can fault that article. Extensive use of hyperbole, choice of pictures that indicate that she played a couple hours top, misrepresentation of reality, a lot of positive aspects of the game missed, the functionality of the UI bunched up with the aesthetics of the game and used as an excuse to lower the graphics score (LOL!). This review is a trainwreck, but it's not surprising that some rabid haters defend it.

They'd bend over twice to defend anything that says something negative about this game, no matter what it is.

Indeed. Couldn't agree with this more.
I'm really surprised at all the people posting in this thread who're actually offended enough to nitpick at every part of the review and post about it here.
I'm appalled.

"Nitpicking" would indicate an active effort to find some at least partly hidden small details. The enormous flaws of this article are so blatantly evident that skimming through it once is enough to evidentiate what example of poor journalism it is.

Clearly reviews are made for people that haven't played the game or else they would be pointless, like most of you are seeing it in this thread. If we look at it from a new player point of view that's not a final fantasy fan they would agree with everything the review said. And for those of you that are saying she only played to level 10 can you honestly say you haven't seen everything the game has to offer by then?

LOL: Reviews are made for everyone, especially long after the release of a game. They're for the new player, they are for the veteran, they are for the dood that left the game and is on the fence if to come back or not. Any kind of article is made for everyone that spends his time to read it.

if you play only to level 10 (and it's doubtful that she even got there), there's a ton of things you haven't seen. A large part of the story (including path companions), class questlines, NMs, all the sidequests but the most basic, 90% of the game's abilities (and with them 90% of the combat gameplay) and so forth.

Please, let's be serious.

[Jennestia]

"no content" is by itself a laughable hyperbole. Everything included in a game is content.

You know, people ignore this fact in order to have an argument or they'll pull the semantics card. It's like opening a novel and saying it has no content because there's no "action" sequences.

[Nilheim]

Please, let's be serious.

Sure, let's do that. As the other person mentioned, the content is the same whether you're rank 5 or rank 45. You're still gonna be doing leves to get SP, and it's gonna be the same kind of gameplay, expect you'll be somewhere else. And come on, are you really saying he missed out on the best part of the game because he didn't do the 4 main scenario quests that are so lame I wanted to shoot myself after doing them? Only the last one was cool, and that's because the cutscene was awesome.
Crafting doesn't change one bit whether you're rank 3 or 39. The current sidequests do give us some lore but come on, that's like saying a book is awesome cause it has pages. MMOs are supposed to have those things, period.

Your "conspiracy" theory is what's hilarious. Don't you think if they wanted to be evil reviewers out to get Square Enix (I'm not even gonna try to figure out how you understood that), they would have reviewed the game sooner to tear it apart when it was even worse? If anything, they're the only people who gave the game a chance with this 10 months wait.

I'll say it again, reviewing it 3 days before the major patch was a bad idea, but jesus christ everything he says is true, never mind the fact that he's not aware of everything 1.18 will bring.
Before you label me as a FFXIV hater like you did with the people who didn't agree with your point of view, I suggest you ask yourself why I would spend my time playing a game I hate.

[Jynx]

I'll say it again, I think this review was written like 6 months ago when things like "Auto attack" was a rumor! Someone then left it on their "To publish" desk and were all like.

"Oh shit! This is $4.00 ripe for the pickings from MMORPG.com!"

Copy/Paste - Retrieve compensation for poorly written and out of date article, logic be damned.

[Bubblesz]

lol..this thread was created by the author that wrote the review.

[Zenaku]

Why is it, that in nearly every single post, you bring up WoW? This only makes you look ignorant along with making you look like a biased fanboy. Nobody is even talking about WoW, and it doesn't even -sound- like Yoshi-P is making it into a WoW clone. Despite your lack of MMO experience, WoW didn't create those features.

2004 called, they want their bandwagon back.

maybe you misunderstood me everything that yoshi-p have been doing sound like wow then when you really see it like the dungeon video it become something new and fun that i know SE can do that what i said sorry if you misunderstood me.

not being a fanboy i don't dislike wow and i know wow don't make the features but when you talk to anyone who know about mmo and you say jump,swim,dungeon they first game come to mind is wow that what i meant not that ffxiv becoming like wow.

[Preypacer]

Right over your head....ZOOOMM.
My counter was the the statement that 10 months isnt enough time for an MMO to get their junk fixed. I listed a noob mmo company that did that and more.

Except that Trion has had hardly any "junk to get fixed". That's the difference.

They launched with a mostly complete and stable game, had relatively few bugs and such to deal with, and have mostly been able to move forward with content releases as planned. Rift is chugging along in pretty much the manner FFXIV should have been.

SE had an update path planned out as well, the difference is theirs was based on a game design that has since had to be pulled and completely revised. In the face of all that was wrong with the game, the worst thing they could have done was "stayed the course" and continued on with their planned update schedule anyway.

It's like setting out on a cross-country drive, your entire trip mapped out with specific stops planned along the way. Barely hours after you set out, you realize the route you mapped out is closed down due to severe flooding in a couple states along the way. So, you have to now go back and plot out an entirely different route, scratching a number of planned stops off the list in the process.

SE has been in the process of plotting an entirely different route via their efforts to review, revise and redo major aspects of FFXIV's design. Starting with 1.18, it seems, they're finally setting out on the new path they've plotted.