mmorpg's review

[Cendres]

I was going to post pretty much the same thing, lol. Like it or not, FFXIV made its own bed and has to lie in it. I don't believe in this MMORPG.com conspiracy theory. Furthermore I can't see MMORPG doing any more damage to FFXIV than SE has already done thus far.

I think some of you should like at the bright side, had they reviewed it a couple of months after release it probably would have gotten a 2 or something. (if you're the type that's so hung up about a game's "score)

This is not what the outrage is about, IF this review had come out months ago it would have been a fair review people on the MMORPG.com site were even asking for one. BUT the site's administrators decided to hold off until the game was in better shape.

Then they publish a review before major changes are added when they said black on white they were not going to do this!! So what's the deal? Really what they should have done is do a first review when the game came out on PC and then do a revision once the payment started or the PS3 version launched.

We all know SE made a huge mistake, SE knows even the most die hard fanboy/girl knows it. That's not the issue. Also the fact that the review doesn't mention the changes that were made as small as they are doesn't really help out their case. It's almost like this review sat in the admin's email inbox for months and they just remembered to post it... lolol. That's what it seems like anyway.

[Abriael]

Seriously, if he did play the game long enough , that 5.1 would had been a 2.0.

And says who, pray tell?

The beef here i tough it was about when it was reviewed.

There are plenty beefs. The timing is horrible, and the review is all kinds of a trainwreck under basically every point of view. Massive use of negative hyperbole, loss of positive areas of the game missed and some positives described as negatives (the plot? LOL), complete lack of even the slightest technical knowledge of how to write a basic review, simply didn't play the game (which means lack of journalistic integrity) and so forth.

If this review was a legit one, journalists could just log into the game an hour, take four pictures of the first crap they see, then go to some forum to copy-paste all the complaints they can find, reword them a little, add a snarky conclusive remark and an arbitrary score, and call it a review.

Boy, the gaming writer job has become easy...

[Preypacer]

I wouldnt call this unconstructive, its why I got banned there relevent questions, or they want to silence me for 3 days:

"You should have been up to date on the information from SE like the entire playerbase and media and known it was coming out, you should have thought your integrity could be brought into question. Also when was the game under review? and how much did the revewer play for, because it doesnt seem like much. Also if there isnt a re-review after 1.18 or 1.19 at the latest, no matter what is said about it I will be 100% that your site only gives good reviews to games that give you more money."

I'm thinking it's the last line that landed you the ban. They really, really hate it when people accuse them of favoring the highest-paying advertisers and shunning the lowest or non-paying ones. It's one of those things that anyone can see a pattern of by simply hanging around the site long enough to see the patterns developing. Yet, there's always the plausible deniability of them saying "Nuh uh. There is no bias here. Now, say that again and we'll ban you".

They could have just removed that offending line, though, and left the rest of it alone. They do have "mod edits" there.

Your questions were perfectly appropriate and valid. Of course, they also could have opened an ugly can of worms for the site, at which time someone would have stepped in and done the "the opinions of the reviewers do not reflect that of mmorpg.com" routine. They've done that before, too.

Basically, when MMORPG can not, or does not want to defend or back up the article of one of its contributors, they immediately distance themself from it. Yet, in other cases, you'll see them full-on endorsing them, even defending them. Their stance is entirely determined on a case-by-case basis, depending on how a given situation reflects on them.

That site has damage control and dodging accountability down to a science.

[Cendres]

To note the reviewers on that site I believe are not actual writers or journalists, they are bloggers and people like you and me, I'm not even sure they get paid I would gander that they don't. Anyone here could apply to that site and possibly become a reviewer, that's true for quite a lot of online gaming sites and magazines.

[Kiote]

Lol, I just had to check back as to where that reviews comments went.. That Community manager must be having the worst day of his life..

[Kazimir]

Valid disagreements from everyone here aside, it's not like the reviewer is incorrect. I honestly wouldn't recommend the game to anyone either, at least right now. I don't honestly see the game being one I would consider recommend worthy for another year.

[Delsus]

I'm thinking it's the last line that landed you the ban. They really, really hate it when people accuse them of favoring the highest-paying advertisers and shunning the lowest or non-paying ones. It's one of those things that anyone can see a pattern of by simply hanging around the site long enough to see the patterns developing. Yet, there's always the plausible deniability of them saying "Nuh uh. There is no bias here. Now, say that again and we'll ban you".

They could have just removed that offending line, though, and left the rest of it alone. They do have "mod edits" there.

Your questions were perfectly appropriate and valid. Of course, they also could have opened an ugly can of worms for the site, at which time someone would have stepped in and done the "the opinions of the reviewers do not reflect that of mmorpg.com" routine. They've done that before, too.

Basically, when MMORPG can not, or does not want to defend or back up the article of one of its contributors, they immediately distance themself from it. Yet, in other cases, you'll see them full-on endorsing them, even defending them. Their stance is entirely determined on a case-by-case basis, depending on how a given situation reflects on them.

That site has damage control and dodging accountability down to a science.

If the line was deleated, then a reply to my questions it would cause no problems, in hindsight maybe it was a little too far, to say that in public, but its done now, they are questions that need answering to see if they actually played the game, because there has been nothing about it, it looks like the reviewer played the opening cutscenes and copy/pasted complaints from a forum, useless review waste of reviewers time and brings mmorpg a bad name for no reason they are fools to post it and I hope thier website dies soon.

[Abriael]

Valid disagreements from everyone here aside, it's not like the reviewer is incorrect. I honestly wouldn't recommend the game to anyone either, at least right now. I don't honestly see the game being one I would consider recommend worthy for another year.

You're free to recommend or not any game to anyone you like, but the problem comes when a reviewer says something laughable as this: "That’s what Final Fantasy XIV feels like—an undeveloped pod person, and the probability is that it will eventually become little more than a shallow duplicate of a real game."

Yay for Ms. May's crystal ball.
First she reviews the game days before a major patch, calling confirmed information about future patches "rumor" (can't be more snarky and unprofessional lol), then she goes on telling that the game will probably never get better? And she knows that how again?
That all without even playing it a decent amount of time of course.

I know quite a few sites, magazines and media outlets in which someone like this would get shown the door without a second thought.

[lenn1]

why are you guys getting mad at a 5.1 score? if they gave the game a 9.0 would you be happy and agree with it?

[Xatsh]

why are you guys getting mad at a 5.1 score? if they gave the game a 9.0 would you be happy and agree with it?

People are not mad about the score, they are mad at the opinionated comments and false information in it. That and the fact they released a new review 3 days before an update which is addressing half the negatives mentioned.