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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    Did it come at a bad time? Yes. However, if this patch hadn't been delayed twice, then this review wouldn't have come at such a bad time.
    Since the review has been delayed 10 months, they could have just delayed it more in order to keep it relevant.
    That's what anyone with integrity would have done.

    Don't kid yourselves into thinking that this review is what's going to hurt the game. The game is already hurting and you should be glad that they've said they will re-review it later this year AFTER the patches and that it got a higher score than quite a few previous reviews.
    Honestly the hope is that this particular writer won't be allowed to taint the name of journalist anymore. Considering that they didn't review the game at launch, reviewing it four days before a major patch promising another review later simply doesn't make the slightest sense. Just wait for relevant changes to be made and then post a review. They already missed the train to review the game in it's launch state.

    Edit: Also, it's kind of hard to say the author hates SE if you actually read the article.
    Considering the widespread use of hyperbole in the review to add dramatization to the negative points, either she does, or she just copy pasted some hyperbolic forum posts without actually playing the game.

    Or she's completely unable to get a point across without the use of hyperbole, in which case she should look for a different job.
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    Patch 1.18 won't have made a difference.

    Everything they said is true.

    They will re-review the game when it's ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    How is it not going to be the same game being reviewed? MMOs change. Any MMO player reading a review on an MMO will realize this. The author probably stated "rumors" in reference to how everyone thinks every patch is the miracle patch. They mention the introduction of quests, the community claims content has arrived, patch installs, community is unhappy.

    People at this point in time are pessimistic. SE has to prove themselves before people start reading too much into the promises. That's perfectly fair with their track record, and the very fact that tons of people in this thread have stated that the review was fair should be a big red flag for some of you.

    Did it come at a bad time? Yes. However, if this patch hadn't been delayed twice, then this review wouldn't have come at such a bad time.

    Don't kid yourselves into thinking that this review is what's going to hurt the game. The game is already hurting and you should be glad that they've said they will re-review it later this year AFTER the patches and that it got a higher score than quite a few previous reviews.

    Edit: Also, it's kind of hard to say the author hates SE if you actually read the article.
    Reviews like this increase the amount of pessimistic thought processes. The reason, and main reason, why this review is crap is because it failed to mention anything Yoshida and crew said is coming in the 1.18 patch in 4 days. No one is kidding themselves by thinking the review will hurt the game. anyone that doesnt keep up with these forums and reads that crap review will get an automatic negative image on the game, ESPECIALLY since she calls the changes coming in 4 days as 'rumors'. She intentionally wrote that first paragraph to aid in deterring newcomers, the rest is just old crap. who wants to start playing based on rumors? The author may not hate SE, but defiantly hates this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Since the review has been delayed 10 months, they could have just delayed it more in order to keep it relevant.
    That's what anyone with integrity would have done.



    Honestly the hope is that this particular writer won't be allowed to taint the name of journalist anymore. Considering that they didn't review the game at launch, reviewing it four days before a major patch promising another review later simply doesn't make the slightest sense. Just wait for relevant changes to be made and then post a review. They already missed the train to review the game in it's launch state.



    Considering the widespread use of hyperbole in the review to add dramatization to the negative points, either she does, or she just copy pasted some hyperbolic forum posts without actually playing the game.

    Or she's completely unable to get a point across without the use of hyperbole, in which case she should look for a different job.
    Exactly. She only mentions they did the graphics right, everything else stinks. She hasn't played the game enough to give a proper review on it. Didnt you notice the RANK1 PUGILIST with STARTER GEAR in her pictures.


    Point is, don't do a review on something with major changes coming 4 days later. waste of time. Who cares if the patch is delayed. delay the review too then.
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    Last edited by Reika; 07-19-2011 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    Patch 1.18 won't have made a difference.

    Everything they said is true.

    They will re-review the game when it's ready.
    "The final nail in the coffin might be the horrid quest system. You gather up some quests at the local inn, then head out into the wilderness to find one of the hovering “aetheryte” crystals, which you must interact with to officially begin one of your quests."

    -She thinks Guildleves are something they are not, Guildleves aren't Quests

    "Rumor has it that auto attack, and a serious overhaul of the combat system, is coming in the upcoming patch. I truly hope this proves accurate"

    -She thinks confirmed and coming changes are "rumors" that she "hopes" prove accurate.

    Everything is definitely true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    Patch 1.18 won't have made a difference.
    Says who?

    Everything they said is true.
    Most of what she said is a gross hyperbole. Hyberbole is a misrepresentation of reality.
    She missed most of the positive aspects of the games. Presenting the negatives but not the positives when reviewing a game is a misrepresentation of reality.

    Misrepresenting reality =/= "True".
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    Last edited by Abriael; 07-19-2011 at 04:56 PM.

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    I can care less about the review say i can care less if this become the next big thing in MMO history. I really don't care if FFXIV win WoW or not i just want to play a game that is not wow-clone. Everything yoshi-p talk he sound like he making this into a wow-clone then i saw the dungeon video and it does not remind me anything like wow. I hope jumping and now swimming wont remind me like wow too -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybongster View Post
    "The final nail in the coffin might be the horrid quest system. You gather up some quests at the local inn, then head out into the wilderness to find one of the hovering “aetheryte” crystals, which you must interact with to officially begin one of your quests."

    -She thinks Guildleves are something they are not, Guildleves aren't Quests

    "Rumor has it that auto attack, and a serious overhaul of the combat system, is coming in the upcoming patch. I truly hope this proves accurate"

    -She thinks confirmed and coming changes are "rumors" that she "hopes" prove accurate.

    Everything is definitely true.
    True, Guildleves aren't quests. Guildleves wish they were quests. The truth is, they were the only form of content, for the most part, that the game released with. So you can forgive people for thinking of them as quests. In fact, I'm sure SE themselves have called guildleves a questing system at some point. Just because players abuse them as a quick form of levelling doesnt mean they aren't quests.

    For all we know the changes coming in patch 1.18 could turn out to be totally non-functional. I'm certainly not holding my breath.

    People who aren't die-hard fans aren't going to nitpick her every word like you are anyway. They are just going to glance over the article and take in the general gist of what it's saying. And generally speaking you can't fault the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybongster View Post
    "The final nail in the coffin might be the horrid quest system. You gather up some quests at the local inn, then head out into the wilderness to find one of the hovering “aetheryte” crystals, which you must interact with to officially begin one of your quests."

    -She thinks Guildleves are something they are not, Guildleves aren't Quests
    They're not? What are they then? Just because there are different types of quests does not change the facts that leves are indeed quests.


    "Rumor has it that auto attack, and a serious overhaul of the combat system, is coming in the upcoming patch. I truly hope this proves accurate"

    -She thinks confirmed and coming changes are "rumors" that she "hopes" prove accurate.

    Everything is definitely true.
    This is the only issue I have a problem with in that review. Not her use of the word rumor in another place, but strictly for the auto-attack implementation. Using "rumor" to address the "overhauls" actually can be justified since it depends entirely on how drastic these changes actually are. It could be another example of SE hyping something and then it's a massive let down, just like when Yoshi announced quests being added and people acted as if the game was going to be changed drastically. Obviously it would not be in the literal sense of the word, but how the phrase is often used.
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    Who cares at this point. Theres like 30 thousand of us still playing. The game is in the bargan bin for 15 buck. Its not like this review is really gonna tear down the image the average MMo player has of this game and the 30k of us still playing arent gonna quit because of the review either. Seems like a bunch of people getting worked up over something that doesnt even matter.
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    Clearly reviews are made for people that haven't played the game or else they would be pointless, like most of you are seeing it in this thread. If we look at it from a new player point of view that's not a final fantasy fan they would agree with everything the review said. And for those of you that are saying she only played to level 10 can you honestly say you haven't seen everything the game has to offer by then?
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