mmorpg's review

[Reika]

we have to remember a review of the game was posted and all reviews are based purely off someones opinion on the game. we may not agree with it, but because i don't agree with everything they said does not make it wrong. i don't want auto-attack, but that does not make your reasoning for wanting it wrong. i don't want jump in game, but it doesn't make others wrong for wanting it.

if we have more reasonable discussions instead of the constant go play the other game responses that are always thrown around maybe more could at least understand where the opinions come from. just because his review does not fit what you believe to be accurate does not mean his is inaccurate. the thing is we all have a habit of throwing insults anytime someone disagrees with us. the fact is his review is only one opinion.

you would attack me if i wrote an honest review of what i feel about the game at this point also. on release i felt the game was round a 5.1-6.0 and even though some think it's gotten better i would put a ranking around a 4.0-4.5 at this point. just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean either of us is wrong, but noting more than we see things differently.

Yea, but writing a review KNOWING theres pretty much a ginormous patch coming in the week you write the review, and only stating the current negatives but not what the patch is going to bring, is a big waste of time, both to write and to read.

[darkstarpoet1]

Yea, but writing a review KNOWING theres pretty much a ginormous patch coming in the week you write the review, and only stating the current negatives but not what the batch is going to bring, is a big waste of time, both to write and to read.

now that i completely agree with that what is coming should have been mentioned, but they cannot give rave reviews on anything that is not in game yet. the only other thing about saying what is coming in this patch is we do not even know how much of it will play into the system to make things better or worse so it'd be hard to talk it up until then. they should have mentioned the upcoming changes and that's about as far as they could have went with it.

i agree that waiting until after the patch was probably the smartest thing to do, but i was just saying even if they posted it afterwards people would still say it was written too soon because this or that is not done.

[Reika]

Then the woman should have waited instead of giving a review that wont last through the week. instead she had to take some silly screen shots of the beginning of the game with her newly created pug that she killed one whole wharf rat with and blast the game in its soon to be altered entirety.

[Jynx]

but i was just saying even if they posted it afterwards people would still say it was written too soon because this or that is not done.

While it would happen, the ammount of people and their logical footing would be far weaker than it is right now.

As it stands there is perfectly sound reasoning to call someone out for releasing the review at this point in time, after 1.18 and 1.19 a month+ away? Not so much.

[Reika]

That review reminds me of the old cartoon 'The Critic' In how she just basically said "It Stinks"

Really... one wharf rat kill and she thinks she knows the games future.

[darkstarpoet1]

You continue to harp on the fact that the rants listed in the review won't be changed by 1.18, but again, a review is (and should be) *not* just a list of complaints.

Without even going on the fact that combat is being changed, and combat is a major aspect of a mmorpg, 1.18 has the full potential to add very enjoyable aspects to the game (grand companies missions, dungeons, new quests etcetera), which means that it could easily add more *positive points* (that are already sorely lacking in this review) to a review.
Those tend to be rather relevant too, you know?

i continue to harp on the fact they aren't being addressed? please show that to me. i never once said that anything they said wasn't being addressed, but continue to flame away anyways.

all i stated is as of now they are legit, but it could be not so in a few days. i also stated in another post it would have been a good idea to wait until after the patch to have done so, but of course you overlooked that. you also overlook that i said that the updates should have been mentioned in the review. of course you failed to mention that and continue on by saying them.

That review reminds me of the old cartoon 'The Critic' In how she just basically said "It Stinks"

Really... one wharf rat kill and she thinks she knows the games future.

agreed it's kinda hard to review anything with a quick glance. you would think that actual review sites would have a group of people that played the game for a decent amount of time before making reviews on something. it's like if movie critics watched a preview and then wrote about the entire movie.

[Abriael]

i continue to harp on the fact they aren't being addressed? please show that to me. i never once said that anything they said wasn't being addressed, but continue to flame away anyways.

My mistake, i mistaken you for another poster that continued to harp on that.

all i stated is as of now they are legit, but it could be not so in a few days. i also stated in another post it would have been a good idea to wait until after the patch to have done so, but of course you overlooked that. you also overlook that i said that the updates should have been mentioned in the review. of course you failed to mention that and continue on by saying them.

The problem isn't that those arguments aren't legit, some are, some are somewhat footed in reality but extremely overdramatized and tainted by hyperbole (which is a big problem in itself). The problem is that the review is extremely lacking in adressing the game's positive points, and that the patch can easily introduce some relevant new ones.

The patch may or may not improve the game, no one knows. What *everyone* knows is that the patch will include some very sizeable changes and addition that will make the game objectively different. Which means that for better or for worse that review will be irrelevant and potentially misleading in four days.

The score is no matter, what matters are the contents, and that review describes a game that won't be fitting that description in four days (mind you, it doesn't really fit that description even now due to the lackluster adress of positive points and the widespread use of hyperbole on the negatives, but the difference will be even bigger in four days).

[darkstarpoet1]

My mistake, i mistaken you for another poster that continued to harp on that.

no worries i just wanted you to realize that wasn't me lol.

The problem isn't that those arguments aren't legit, some are, some are extremely overdramatized and tainted by hyperbole (which is a big problem in itself). The problem is that the review is extremely lacking in adressing the game's positive points, and that the patch can easily introduce some relevant new ones.
Which makes posting a review just four days before said patch downright nonsensical.

oh i agree. they should have pointed out what has been improved. that is a given.

that's why i just stated that they should have people actually play a game and not kill a few mobs and think they know the game. if i gave a review although most wouldn't agree with it on here i could go from the day after release until now. i didn't make it into closed beta regretfully. it also took one day for my bank to get the info from click and buy to be able to sign in which is why it was day after. they pointed out everything they seen as a flaw still, but because they had not been playing the game they could not tell you anything that has improved.

this is why i stated the thing about movie critics writing reviews after just seeing the previews. if they haven't actually seen the movie they would not have a clue about how it was as a whole, but just how it was shown to them in that brief time frame.