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[SeraviEdalborez]

Not to see it, dumbass. To process what you see and react to it. The firestarter -will not- show until the end of that .5s. If you think otherwise, you should stop playing blm.

The entire point of fireweaving is that you can see the +Firestarter before the bolt hits and not after. This allows you faster reaction. Perhaps you should look again for yourself because this was evident within 2-3 trials of doing this.

[YanderePrincess]

The entire point of fireweaving is that you can see the +Firestarter before the bolt hits and not after. This allows you faster reaction. Perhaps you should look again for yourself because this was evident within 2-3 trials of doing this.

No, the whole point of fireweaving is to give you a solid time reference rather than having to base it on your own internal clock.

[LetBloodline]

Mmmm, it's not that I absolutely can't afford it so much as I personally don't feel it's worth it, especially when it's something I specifically would be planning to replace. I'd rather put that money towards things like my Omnilex Novus, Stardust Rod Novus (if I ever get around to farming up more atmas), and glamours to look pretty.

Yeah, I made it at start of coil so I so had time to use it. Make it only for down T9 is a little meh

[HaroldSaxon]

The entire point of fireweaving is that you can see the +Firestarter before the bolt hits and not after. This allows you faster reaction. Perhaps you should look again for yourself because this was evident within 2-3 trials of doing this.

No, the whole point of fireweaving is to give you a solid time reference rather than having to base it on your own internal clock.

You are both wrong. It is to see the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs. Sacrificing (at best) 0.5 seconds instead of slightly more if you move. Its only an overall dps increase if you have a high crit and low spellspeed build from what i've found.

[YanderePrincess]

You are both wrong. It is to see the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs. Sacrificing (at best) 0.5 seconds instead of slightly more if you move. Its only an overall dps increase if you have a high crit and low spellspeed build from what i've found.

You realize you just said the same thing I did, but in more words? And my previous analysis of "fireweaving" vs "firewaiting" still holds true. You're wasting .5s for nothing 60% of the time because Firestarter only has a 40% chance to proc with fireweaving, but with "firewaiting" you're only "spending time not casting a damaging spell" on the instances there are firestarter procs, and the amount of time lost on "moving to cancel your blizz III on that 40% of the time there is a firestarter proc won't add up to the amount of time "fireweaving" loses when there is no proc.

[HaroldSaxon]

You realize you just said the same thing I did, but in more words? And my previous analysis of "fireweaving" vs "firewaiting" still holds true. You're wasting .5s for nothing 60% of the time because Firestarter only has a 40% chance to proc with fireweaving, but with "firewaiting" you're only "spending time not casting a damaging spell" on the instances there are firestarter procs, and the amount of time lost on "moving to cancel your blizz III on that 40% of the time there is a firestarter proc won't add up to the amount of time "fireweaving" loses when there is no proc.

How is "giving a solid time reference" the same as seeing "the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs". If that is what you originally meant, you described it incorrectly.

[SeraviEdalborez]

You are both wrong. It is to see the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs. Sacrificing (at best) 0.5 seconds instead of slightly more if you move. Its only an overall dps increase if you have a high crit and low spellspeed build from what i've found.

How is that not what I said?

[HaroldSaxon]

How is that not what I said?

If you think:

No, the whole point of fireweaving is to give you a solid time reference rather than having to base it on your own internal clock.

Is the same as:

You are both wrong. It is to see the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs. Sacrificing (at best) 0.5 seconds instead of slightly more if you move. Its only an overall dps increase if you have a high crit and low spellspeed build from what i've found.

Then clearly nothing i'm going to say is going to matter

[YanderePrincess]

How is "giving a solid time reference" the same as seeing "the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs". If that is what you originally meant, you described it incorrectly.

" It is to see the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs. Sacrificing (at best) 0.5 seconds instead of slightly more if you move."

Which is the purpose of fireweaving over simply waiting (not casting anything) to ensure you don't have a firestarter proc.

[SeraviEdalborez]

The entire point of fireweaving is that you can see the +Firestarter before the bolt hits and not after. This allows you faster reaction. Perhaps you should look again for yourself because this was evident within 2-3 trials of doing this.

You are both wrong. It is to see the firestarter proc before your next Fire 1, in order to not lose procs. Sacrificing (at best) 0.5 seconds instead of slightly more if you move. Its only an overall dps increase if you have a high crit and low spellspeed build from what i've found.

This is the same thing worded differently. To hell with whatever Yandere is saying.