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  1. #191
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    If the organization that is hosting the races has a no stopwatch policy, then yes timing the sprints is cheating. In XIV they want everyone to feel like heroes, them giving you access to a tool that will let you point out to those "heroes" you are screwing up, and here is the proof isn't something they are going to do.
    Honestly, I'll just wait and see what happens when we get a player made addon that does it all in game. I honestly don't think SE is completely against them, just doesn't want to seem like they're allowing an external program of one type, so people might think it's ok to use others.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    You keep telling yourself that. Keep justifying parsers by saying you know people that use them.

    It doesn't matter to me because pre-parsers to current parser usage behavior is obvious.
    See, you just proved how much you don't know. Pre-parser behavior? Parsers have been around for FFXIV for 10 months now and you are just now running into people being dumb about them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    If the organization that is hosting the races has a no stopwatch policy, then yes timing the sprints is cheating. In XIV they want everyone to feel like heroes, them giving you access to a tool that will let you point out to those "heroes" you are screwing up, and here is the proof isn't something they are going to do.
    What kind of organization hosting a race wouldn't have it timed? This is just a terrible analogy. Every MMO makes you feel like a hero, and almost all of them have built in parsers or app support. The people pointing out you are a bad DPS and saying they are parsing you are just harassing you, and they would be harassing players regardless of third party software.
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    Last edited by Appleh4x; 08-10-2014 at 06:35 PM.

  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    See, you just proved how much you don't know. Pre-parser behavior? Parsers have been around for FFXIV for 10 months now and you are just now running into people being dumb about them.
    Even better, Parsers were around in 1.0.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Even better, Parsers were around in 1.0.
    Yar, I should have specified ARR but good point
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  5. #195
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    See, you just proved how much you don't know.
    What is 2010 for 500.

    FFXIV isn't the only game to use meters and player behavior changes pre to post will always be obvious.

    Like if it was some hidden secret no one has figured out why they even exist to begin with for the past decade.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 08-10-2014 at 06:40 PM.

  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    What is 2010 for 500.
    It's a year in which parsers existed too.
    The community in 1.0 was much different to what it is now. Parsers haven't changed, the game/the people have.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    It's a year in which parsers existed too.
    The community in 1.0 was much different to what it is now. Parsers haven't changed, the game/the people have.
    End game enforced it to a worse degree.

    Again this isn't something that happened over night. Also these meters aren't even a necessity yet people go on like they can't live without em.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    End game enforced it to a worse degree.
    What?
    Do you even think about what you're typing? Most people against parsers in the thread is pretty much arguing that they aren't needed to see how damage is being dealt. You yourself even said you can see where damage is lacking without one.
    Now you're saying parsers are necessary because of how the end game is?
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    Now you're saying "parsers are necessary" because of how the end game is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    meters aren't even a necessity
    confuse yourself all you want.
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  10. #200
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    Damon Savinski
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    Weaver Lv 60
    theres tons of mods out there these days including guaranteed hatin at any % of quality, auto gathering, auto monster farming, free repairs regardless of crafters lvl, accessing areas in duties/open world that no one is supposed to be able to reach (watched a sch solo t5 doing this lol) down to seeing enemies hp as percent.the only mod i would be supporting would be the hp % one but now that everyone can do that i no longer do. all you need to have these mod programs is $9 a month and the sky is pretty much the limit on what you can do. also this radar thing isnt as useless as ppl say it is, theres multiple ones out there and they range from just the distance of the mini map to the whole zone and can alert you to a specific monster that spawns.
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