SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[Tannlore]

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The more people rant about parsers however, the more likely it is that generation of the logfile will simply disappear one day.

Pretty much this. Also, I find it amusing that people are arguing with each other how this is or isn't fair/cheating as is any one of us has any say on the matter. SE has spoken, their decision is made and pretty clear. Smacking each other over the heads with interweb toughguy sticks accomplishes nothing but a decimation of my popcorn supply. *sigh* I need to go buy some more now.

[raelgun]

Pretty much this. Also, I find it amusing that people are arguing with each other how this is or isn't fair/cheating as is any one of us has any say on the matter. SE has spoken, their decision is made and pretty clear. Smacking each other over the heads with interweb toughguy sticks accomplishes nothing but a decimation of my popcorn supply. *sigh* I need to go buy some more now.

Yet when addons come about, we will have parsers, your point ?

[Tannlore]

Yet when addons come about, we will have parsers, your point ?

And tell me, my dear, who will allow those addons? Blizzard? NCSoft? Bethesda?

Maybe... I dunno.. SE? Why yes!

Wait.. wait.. doesn't.. SE have.. control of the ToS?

Yes they do!!

Now wait for it... wait for it..... Here it comes...

SE who has now spoken about the matter.. will THEN speak about it AGAIN!

OMG? Who would have thought such a thing could ever happen!

Also, Yoshi-P said no parsers in the add-on system in a Interview article. I'll go look it up and post it for you. The add-ons will basically be changes to the HUD pretty much. But don't get your hopes up there.. but who knows, maybe they'll change their minds.

[raelgun]

Also, Yoshi-P said no parsers in the add-on system in a Interview article. I'll go look it up and post it for you. The add-ons will basically be changes to the HUD pretty much. But don't get your hopes up there.. but who knows, maybe they'll change their minds.

Actually yoshi said it was fine, he doesnt mind at all if we had addons that displayed more information that we could see, now you are just sprouting crap.

The addons do have to go through SE, but this is mainly if the addons actually break the client in itself, such as using too much memory, you have hopeful thinking , many people have read the article saying the addons can display more information like parsing.

[Amberyl]

Actually yoshi said it was fine, he doesnt mind at all if we had addons that displayed more information that we could see, now you are just sprouting crap.

Old, out of date quote that has been surperseeded by policy statements that have been made since.

[raelgun]

Old, out of date quote that has been surperseeded by policy statements that have been made since.

actually that article is quite recent, and you might notice we dont have addons released yet, the article was questioning specifically about addons, yet yoshi still said he has no problem, through addons that the playerbase can see more information, please keep upto date on his interviews.

[Tannlore]

actually that article is quite recent, and you might notice we dont have addons released yet, the article was questioning specifically about addons, yet yoshi still said he has no problem, through addons that the playerbase can see more information, please keep upto date on his interviews.

I imagine the real final word would come at Fan Fest during the Q&A panel. I wonder how many hearts will soar or crash based on delicious tidbits of information they will cryptically handout that day.

[Tannlore]

Actually yoshi said it was fine, he doesnt mind at all if we had addons that displayed more information that we could see, now you are just sprouting crap.

The addons do have to go through SE, but this is mainly if the addons actually break the client in itself, such as using too much memory, you have hopeful thinking , many people have read the article saying the addons can display more information like parsing.

Spouting my dear, not spRouting. I am not growing anything.

I noticed you completely disregarded my entire direct statement at the sheer asinine nature of your pointless statement to me earlier. Now who is spouting "crap"?

And to not be caught in my own statement. You are correct! I reread the article and that is true. Here's the link for people: http://www.playerattack.com/news/201...-realm-reborn/

Though I suspect with the way things are going, you will not see any sanctioned parsers. That is pure conjecture on my part though.

[Amberyl]

Also, I find it amusing that people are arguing with each other how this is or isn't fair/cheating as if any one of us has any say on the matter.

This.

I've been in development for over a decade, and a not insignificant part of that time has been spent attempting to address the disruption caused by idiots like this, who believe that their ability to alter something to their own liking is justification enough for doing so. It's pure short-sightedness and self-entitlement, and can have a direct, very damaging result on the financial viability of a product under the right conditions. Sadly, once you lax up in one area, you open the door to everything else, legally.

Every time someone uses a parser as an excuse for illegitimately kick-voting another player from an instance, the chances of that tool being allowed to exist diminish greatly. The first rule of fightclub, after all, is the most important.

[raelgun]

This.

I've been in development for over a decade, and a not insignificant part of that time has been spent attempting to address the disruption caused by idiots like this, who believe that their ability to alter something to their own liking is justification enough for doing so. It's pure short-sightedness and self-entitlement, and can have a direct, very damaging result on the financial viability of a product under the right conditions. Sadly, once you lax up in one area, you open the door to everything else, legally.

Every time someone uses a parser as an excuse for illegitimately kick-voting another player from an instance, the chances of that tool being allowed to exist diminish greatly.

Strange that the most successful mmo and other mmos that are doing fine have parsers, surely someone whos worked in development for over a decade should know this, and yet those games are still running, care to explain that ?