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    Seaku Typhoeus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    For Summoner specifically, Det is an equally important stat as Crit but not less so. Stacking boundless amounts of Crit just because you can doesn't give you the best build. Thinking 2 Int is worth more then 40+ DET is horrendous.
    Your numbers seem wildly inflated. Let's take the drop from them evenstar ring to judgment ring. That's 4 crit and 9 det for 2 int. How is that 40+? You are just grabbing those numbers from thin air.
    Some of the scylla set have some more det on it but there's no real trade from the i110 gear since you can avoid SS with the i110 left side just fine. Don't get me wrong, I think the Ramuh ring is better than the other options as long as you can make acc cap but the difference is not nearly as large as you are making it out to be.


    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    I'm gonna assume were playing the same game. I've personally tried both books on T6, T8 and striking dummies. The Book of Spades for me, seems to tick higher for each DoT on average then the HA Book. I can only contribute this to the amount of DET in between the books despite that one clearly has more *Magic Attack* and Intelligence. If two magic attack was such a decisive increase then by no means should 31 DET be even ticking on average similar numbers.
    So seems to be? You aren't sure? Also let's take for example that the books do give the same or comparable dot numbers. High Allagan is definitely going to have better ruins and festers. So High Allagan is better isn't it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Also your builds are uneven, one is using food , one isnt. One is also substituting a large amount of Int for a spike in DET which is also largely uneven in comparison to your other build.
    Dwill probably just forget to click it before pasting the build over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Simply keeping the same build and switch the books, will suffice. The shift should be 3INT + 2 MAttk(High Allagan Book) + 32 spell speed + 14 Crit vs 31 DET (Either Novus or BoS) if your using the same to compare.
    DET might have a strong weighting to damage and it is certainly better overall than the secondary stats you do gain from the switch; The 3 Int + secondary stats is about on par with the 31 DET you lose. However since it's an even shift of stats then you come out with +2 WD overall, which is better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    On another note alot of people also assume you should be going Crit OR Det, when in actuality your builds for Summoner should be focused on Crit AND Det.
    All the builds assume this, they just decide which to focus on more heavily is all.

    (Also calling it now, Shiva Ex will drop a Crit/Det book so it's better than HA!)
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    Last edited by Seaku; 08-09-2014 at 09:36 AM.