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    considering u can craft enough token items in just over an hour to get an artisans tool i don't have a problem at all with Sawfish being a source for mastercraft. From my own experience and what I've heard the tools always give mastercraft x3 when desynthed (2/2 personally), making it far and away the most reliable method of acquiring mastercraft demis
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    Its not 100%, even if its higher chance than others.

    Also desynthed 20 + 2 carbuncle chronometers.., mainly for fieldcraft IIIs and only got 1 from the 20 and one double from one of the other 2 I crafted from returned mats..

    Bloody hell. Still doing Spicy tomato relish and getting better result but still not enough for all 11 supras, argh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    Also desynthed 20 + 2 carbuncle chronometers.., mainly for fieldcraft IIIs and only got 1 from the 20 and one double from one of the other 2 I crafted from returned mats..

    Bloody hell. Still doing Spicy tomato relish and getting better result but still not enough for all 11 supras, argh
    So, 22 successful desynths and you got 3 FC IIIs? That's not too far outside my expectations. Out of 39 successful desynths on my part, I've gotten 8 FC IIIs. With my server's prices for Emery (15k), that's only 50k per attempt. With my numbers, that's 250k per FC III, and with yours, 367k per FC III. In contrast, my data suggests the drop rate on FC IIIs on Artisan's Spectacles to be about 14% (sample size: 100), and the mats for Artisan's Spectacles run at 80k per Spectacles (the HQ Dzemael Tomatoes alone cost 5k each). That means that, using Artisan's Spectacles, it costs about 575k per FC III, which is more than double the price with my numbers and 50% more with yours.

    Btw, combining our findings, I get an 18% drop rate, which gives a cost on my server of 278k per FC III, which is still less than half the cost of FC IIIs using Artisan's Spectacles.

    But, Spectacles can get you Mastercraft and Rose Gold Ingots, and prices vary per server, of course. So, choice is yours, but I'm sticking with my cute ticking things unless the price of Emery shoots up again.
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  4. #64
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    Out of 40 Artisan Spectacles I just did, I got 8 FCIIIs

    So 3 FCs out of 18 3 star furniture is NOT what I'd expect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    Out of 40 Artisan Spectacles I just did, I got 8 FCIIIs

    So 3 FCs out of 18 3 star furniture is NOT what I'd expect.
    ...and why not? You got 8/40...20%, they got 3/18....16.7%. Not exactly a large discrepancy there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    ...and why not? You got 8/40...20%, they got 3/18....16.7%. Not exactly a large discrepancy there.
    Because Artisan Spectacles are considered i70 and the 3 star furnitures are considered i90

    There should be higher yield rate for i90 stuff, otherwise, whats the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    Because Artisan Spectacles are considered i70 and the 3 star furnitures are considered i90

    There should be higher yield rate for i90 stuff, otherwise, whats the point?
    ilvl 70 stuff always spends 1 demi III, ilvl 90 stuff spends 1-2 demi III

    that makes it much better
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    Alch: It does have the cheapest way to get Battlecraft Demimateria IIs, but they're of limited usefulness.
    Can you please list the item you are refferring to here? Would be nice if its included in the guide as many of us need these Battle IIs to craft augmented chest pieces and there are no real economic ways (shards) of going about it.
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    Was there any factoring in of that i90 furniture is a 70% rate and specs are 100% success rate? All I saw was chatter about successful ones but nothing about the fact that all furniture takes an automatic 30% haircut right out of the gate that is destroyed

    Unless you are buying 3 star mats in the 5-7k range and tawny in the 1-2k range, relish is usually going to still come out ahead especially if you are able to resell the mastercraft for a decent price that you will get overloaded on
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Can you please list the item you are refferring to here? Would be nice if its included in the guide as many of us need these Battle IIs to craft augmented chest pieces and there are no real economic ways (shards) of going about it.
    Madman's Whispering Rod. It's listed in 3 places.
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