So resetting's against the rules now?

[Alukah]

You pointed out that you GET credit even if you don't see the mob. I pointed out that's false if you can't get a single hit in at all due to not being able to see it.
If you got full credit, you must have seen the mob and managed to land a hit.

It's not false, perhaps the elite was outside the range of your holy, but from personal experience I can confirm you do get party contribution by using aoes that don't require a target. If an S rank spawns while the horde is hunting that's the only way I can get contrib, by spamming Blizzard II.

I did read what you wrote, which is why I responded how I did. If you told people then more than 2 parties would have been there and no one would have died, more people would have gotten seals, and you would have been able to go to the other A rank as well

*cough*

The sense of entitlement that leads people to believe that they MUST be at every mob absolutely baffles me

[Nekodar]

I did read what you wrote, which is why I responded how I did. If you told people then more than 2 parties would have been there and no one would have died, more people would have gotten seals, and you would have been able to go to the other A rank as well

Once again, it was called out in shout and in linkshells.

[Nekodar]

I went back and looked, I don't see anywhere I said you get any credit at all not seeing a mob lol.^^

I agree with your description, you misunderstood something you read.

lol ok, everyone states in chat when 100 zerg a mob that they merrily got full credit on a hunt mark half of them never saw load from lag in the first place

That part...

[Velo_Vandore]

Re-setting is unfair and should ideally be fixed by making the enemy go to the next person on the enmity list when the tank leaves the area. Furthermore, to prevent people using this as a survival tactic (i.e. i'll pull then run off before I die to get sneaky full credit) the person leaving the area should have their contribution set back to 0. We need to see a zone barrier appear as you approach it for fates though, so that re-setting isn't done accidentally by a player that's kiting.

Failing this then yes I think re-setting is something that should be reported and stopped by GM's (warning's first to be fair).

Original Poster, saying you are doing it because other people ask you to doesn't cut it. You have to think about what you're doing and make your own decisions. I know you are trying to help people, and there's pressure from many to re-set also, but it's not fair for those who engage the boss first to lose their accumulated credit this way. There is no such thing as an early pull. If a group pulls "early" then they die, the mob is reset anyway or the next players arriving will get the credit. If they can kill the boss without the additional players, then how is this considered early? There were enough players to do the job.

The hunts are absolute garbage gameplay wise right now, and it's because we have swarms of players attempting to zerg every one. The attitude that people should wait for 100+ players to arrive is completely wrong. Anyone should be able to engage when they feel confident there are enough people to succeed. There are plenty of hunts out there, it's very greedy for players who want to get massive numbers of seals to go re-setting the mob and treading on the initial pull groups efforts.

Overall, I think the incentive to spam hunts is too high, and this is a design issue. Why they give so many seals even without picking up the hunt bill is beyond my understanding. There should at least be a cap on seals per week so anyone can get a chance to participate, at least for their weekly elite bill.

REWARDS FOR HUNTS ARE TOO DAMN HIGH!

[Eckhart]

Once again, it was called out in shout and in linkshells.

Neko, no need to explain yourself to him.

Wether if the horde was coming or not, if you guys pulled the mob, its yours and those there at the moment.
I think many people in this game don't know what Finders Keepers is. If they reset on you, report them. Hopefully they'll be kicked out.

He claimed he was going to keep resetting because he KNOWS everyone thanks him and EVERYONE got full credits thank to it... like, really?
I report many people who reset and not say a thing on chat, because it achieves nothing but badmouthing. He seems to know just because the people he's griefing on is not vocal at the moment equals everyone is happy with his resets.
/facepalm

[Appleh4x]

Except, you know, no such "guide of hunting" exists, like it's a bible and everyone has to follow, because... yeah, you guessed it! It's a Finders Keepers game, and if I find it, I pull it, don't wait for your freaking horde to come, and if you do and reset the thing I FOUND, be sure reports are coming your way. And I don't care about your freakingly big and organized linkshells, the point of the matter is that me, or someone else's party was there first and has 100% rights to get credit for
You are not a Messiah helping people get credits. That mob wasn't yours when you robbed a small party of it.

Robbed? I or my party find the majority of hunts I do, then we share with everyone else. Here is that guide you thought didn't exist.

[Appleh4x]

Once again, it was called out in shout and in linkshells.

Umm, no you said you told your FC only:

The other day I saw a shout that Marraco was up. I forwarded information to FC and got a group with people that were there... At most 2 full parties.

[Eckhart]

Robbed? I or my party find the majority of hunts I do, then we share with everyone else. Here is that guide you thought didn't exist.

Except you totally missed the point mate.

No one is forced to follow that guide you love-so-much. If I wanna hunt alone, I do it alone, if I do it with friends, I do it with friends.
I'm not forced to SHOUT to the server, nor I'm obliged for your party to get there in time.

BTW, keyword on your response: MAJORITY.

If you reset mobs you didnt find you are griefing in the process, and probably robbing someone who was there before off their credit.

Do you still have any doubt about this? Re-read the GMs posts, crystal clear.

[Velo_Vandore]

Robbed? I or my party find the majority of hunts I do, then we share with everyone else. Here is that guide you thought didn't exist.

That's fine, just don't re-set.

[Appleh4x]

All the people complaining here have the major problem of not wanting to play with other people in a massively multiplayer online game. If you want the most out of an MMO you have to be a bro, and bros share. If you want to play by yourself there are literally thousands of single player games for you to choose from on whatever platform you prefer (except ps4.) Notice that "massively" is the first word in MMO, 8 people =/= massive. If you want to have a good community you should do content with the whole server community, like hunts.