WHY ARE YOU PLAYING A BARD IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SING?!

[Wobi]

While the OP made some valid points there are quite a few players who will ask for songs at inappropriate times because they clearly don't know the layout or pace of the dungeon/fight and MP is sadly not infinite. Even I we were to waste our gil on X-Ethers they have a long cool down and if we blow our MP on smaller groups we won't have it ready for larger pulls.

That being said, every DPS should have Invigorate and every mage should have ethers available because you will not always have a bard available and need to be prepared regardless. I personally always eat decent food even in lower tier dungeons in roulette, if one fails to ensure they are prepared to maximize their efficiency regardless of what job they are on then they are no better than a bard who rarely ever sings songs.

That being said sometimes people just get a bit of tunnel vision and forget or don't notice, it's just like when you see a tank who is not keeping track of the mobs on the screen and they wander off to beat on the healer, sometimes they need a gentle reminder. Like all of these situations where you need to correct someone's error or offer up advise, tact is paramount.

You do realise that playing songs lowers your DPS, right? That might be a factor.

Foe's Requiem does not lower or inhibit DPS other than the one GCD you lose casting it, Mage's Ballad and Paeon however do. I'm not sure why SE felt the need to saddle the weakest DPS with a punishment for helping the party but I guess that is the cost for being able to damage on the run.

[Exstal]

You do realise that playing songs lowers your DPS, right? That might be a factor.

Playing Mage's Ballad and Army's Paeon will lower DPS. Foe's Requiem has no such detriment so if you're not playing Foe with at least 1 caster in group then you are a terrble Bard.

[Charisma]

You must be one of those people who never has used their car's horn because everyone's just supposed to see you there. Enjoy your car accidents.

Or, you know, if someone needs the bard to sing, they could just say it in chat instead of being all passive-aggressive and making a thread in the forums about it.

lol at bards, only need to press 4 Buttons, easiest class to evade AoE, and still not capable of watching the partys MP.

[Wobi]

lol at bards, only need to press 3 Buttons, easiest class to evade AoE, and still not capable of watching the partys MP.

If a bard is out there pressing only 3 buttons while playing then I'd have to request they hang up their hat immediately. Way to oversimplify it.

[Capattac]

I rarely run dungeons. This is one reason why. I play a Bard. I can't win when it comes to songs.... Logic would dictate when you sing which song but yet my experience has proven to me that no matter what song and when there is ALWAYS some doof running with me that feels they KNOW BETTER and feel like they should explain how I'm not doing it their way. I think I'll hotkey Steadyhand II then slap'em with Hasty Touch.

[DeadRiser]

My favorite is an incompetent healer who needs a ballad because they don't know how to manage their mp even though no one died.

Or watching a Blm just stand there for x number of seconds because they did their rotation wrong and ran out of mp.

Also lol drg....no explanation needed

Don't forget monks who lose their stacks for the stupidest reasons

Or summoners who can't DoT properly

Also tanks who can't tank.

Tl;dr bad players are everywhere. People make mistakes.

At least they are using their job mechanic, meanwhile my crystal tower run including 6 bards and not one foe's req up.

Bards. Everyone plays them, but very little play them correctly. It's the laziest dps job in the game

[XNihili]

Me healing 8 man trial roulette. Bard sits in plumes 5 times. I raise Bard 5 times. Other healer off the edge.

Doesn't get Ballad from any of the three bards in the party.

After the heart phase, don't bother raising them and use the MP saved for some DPS instead

[Tupsi]

Not really. Telling a BRD to sing is more along the lines of telling the WHM to spam Holy to stun packs of mobs; also keep in mind the songs are effectively cooldowns. Telling a WHM to cast heals is similar to telling a BRD to do his DPS rotation and react to Straighter Shot/River of Blood procs.

BRD is a support class so it is like telling a WHM to actually use their heals. It can be confusing going with the generic representation of BRD that's an archer with the ability to buff occasionally, rather than a buffer with the ability to hold their own. Even the original FF BRDs can hold their own, even in XI, just not on the same level as other fighters.

Regardless though, I've seen plenty of eventually wipes because BRDs who won't use Mage's Ballads after us healers constantly raise either them or other people who don't know how avoid death.

[Yoninxi]

Regardless though, I've seen plenty of eventually wipes because BRDs who won't use Mage's Ballads after us healers constantly raise either them or other people who don't know how avoid death.

Don't forget when you spam "Ballad Please <SE.6>" in party chat only to get ignored!

[Freyt]

This thread:

That moment when you've gone from assuming everyone is an individual who's going to do what they want unless specific or general information is presented to them, to assuming someone is going to do what you want at a moments notice. No questions asked, No warnings.

Don't assume someone is omnipotent. Don't assume a Bard has decent experience as a WHM.

I myself determine if a particular set of mobs is worth using Holy, and is not dealing enough damage to worry about healing constantly. Multiple factors go into this, such as the speed in which they die, if they have phases based on timing or health, or if the Stun applied can potentially help matters, or if Holy is pretty much going to get the job done on its own.

Then if I see a Bard I'll start to spam it, but I won't go below the amount of MP I feel is required to get us through the fight, should I need to resort to going back to healing 100% of the time. Multiple factors go into this. Such as does Cure I heal enough to get through mob damage, or if Regen + Cure I is good enough, or am I going to have to resort to some Cure II's, or even worse, Medica.

This is partly because I'm lazy and I'm not a DPS. I was being a Healer for a reason, so I didn't have to DPS most of the time.

When I ask for "MP Song" it's because shit happened and I've actually had to heal overtime, probably keeping the whole party alive, and I know I'm not going to have enough MP eventually with the amount of heals I have to put out, not every run goes smoothly.

IMO if you can't do any of this you shouldn't be complaining about bards.