Summoner Summons

[Tupsi]

FF14 Summoner is like SE learned from all their mistakes in FF11 and fixed all problems

That's kind of interesting, considering I recall my summons in XI being a lot more useful to not only myself but my party as well as doing a ton of damage, with Garuda, Diabolos and Fenrir topping the charts end-game. So if doing damage was an issue that they corrected by making them largely (but not completely) useless in XIV..that would be...interesting.

[Malamasala]

That's kind of interesting, considering I recall my summons in XI being a lot more useful to not only myself but my party as well as doing a ton of damage, with Garuda, Diabolos and Fenrir topping the charts end-game. So if doing damage was an issue that they corrected by making them largely (but not completely) useless in XIV..that would be...interesting.

It depends on how awesome the people you compare to are. I was in a great LS and because of that saw how Summoner paled in comparison for almost the entire game when it came to endgame geared jobs. We did have a Summoner DD party on VRTRA and we did have one on Odin for examples. But majority of endgame content you just threw well equipped WAR/SAM/BLM at and you'd win faster than using SMNs.

In short, SMN was the slow and safe way to try out content, and then it was "go away SMNs, we are used to the fight and need it to be fast".