[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Akiza]

Summoner is a pet based job and the pets aren't that impressive.

[Exstal]

No summoner is one of the more unique and interesting classes in the game. Very effective at what it does and has a decently high skill cap. Reworking it to be a complete pet class or a nuker like BLM would be terrible.

edit: The pets do close to 100 dps on t8 and t9 so yes the pets are very noticeable I have no idea what some of you are talking about the smn pet only be there for contagion thats ridiculous.

Aethestics > Functionality

[Bigcat9715]

Here's a "simply" pet balance fix to SMN. Remove contagion from Garuda drop Tri-disaster and have contagion take its place, then have contagion require Aetherflow. Then make Garuda a mob-killer and Ifrit a boss-killer.

[Hurlstone]

Here's a "simply" pet balance fix to SMN. Remove contagion from Garuda and give it to the player and have it require Aetherflow. Then make Garuda a mob-killer and Ifrit a boss-killer.

As someone who likes SMN how it is, I like that idea. It makes more sense to just give the player the ability. It would be quite cool if they actually balanced out Garuda and Ifrit, so it could be more down to player choice then situation, but that's just me...

[corydor]

NO

Why are people so intent on remembering ffxi summoner as being good yes you had a nice big summon and yes you had big spells but all i remember is

1) constantly drained mp summoner couldn't use there pet indefinitely because it drained mp while out unless under special circumstances, which meant you couldn't cast spells much because you couldn't waste your mp.
2) you had big spells yes but you could only use 2 every 2 odd minutes and one of those were defensive only, for the rest of the time you sat on your arse doing nothing other than throwing seriously under power healing or weak nuking spells around that did nothing.
3) you used your ultimate smn move you drained all your mp and your avatar disappeared basically making you useless until you get enough mp back to resummon and then enough to actually use anything.

[corydor]

it was a horrible class don't get me wrong it was the first class i leveled and used but i soon moved on it was standing around doing nothing forever and very rarely had any impact on any fight other than summoner burn which was a cheesy way to level quick

The current summoner is an amazing way to play and you have maybe up to lvl 100 of levels to go through yet give SE time you maybe using full size avatars eventually who knows LOL

[JohnMccain]

You're saying SMN pet DPS is noticeable?
Maybe you're the one who doesn't do their job properly.

In fact, that's the problem I'm getting at: Aside from Contagion, pets largely don't matter.

This is a joke right? I have a task for you. Go into either t6,8, or 9, use contagion and put garuda away for the rest of the fight. Come back here and post your results or a reason for why you got replaced.

And no, smn doesn't need to be reworked. Only thing I would like to see is a use for ifrit and titan. I think giving titan a provoke like ability is a start. I really don't see how they can make ifrit or garuda on par with each other without people favoring one over the other unless like others stated making contagion a class based skill as opposed to pet.

[hdepaula]

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[Rydia13]

No! Ok look, I am a huge fan of the SMN job, ever since I played FFIV when I was like 6. I love everything about it. The reason I don't want summoner reworked is because this is a unique aspect of the job that hasn't really been shown.

In FFIV, Rydia was a BLM/WHM(then just BLM) on top of being a SMN. Still kicked ass. In FFIX, Garnett and Eiko were healers also. In FFX, the aeon took place of the entire party(unrealistic for an MMO). In FFXI, the avatars fought alongside you and could do nice damage once per minute. Otherwise, SMN felt more like a support job in FFXI.

Point is every FF added a new light to SMN, or "primals" in general. I do agree that SMN in this game needs something though, to make it feel a tad more traditional. My suggestions are to #1. Make Egis a little bigger, and #2 make our LB summon the primal of the Egi were currently using (or random one, w/e lol). That LB change will without a doubt make us feel more like the glorious summoners we all are.

[Ardan]

This is a joke right? I have a task for you. Go into either t6,8, or 9, use contagion and put garuda away for the rest of the fight. Come back here and post your results or a reason for why you got replaced.

And no, smn doesn't need to be reworked. Only thing I would like to see is a use for ifrit and titan. I think giving titan a provoke like ability is a start. I really don't see how they can make ifrit or garuda on par with each other without people favoring one over the other unless like others stated making contagion a class based skill as opposed to pet.

Need to be careful when adding skills to the classes as all jobs associated with that class will have access to it too. Garuda is fine, they just need to make Ifrit and Titan not suck.