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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    FFXI did not promote same sex marriage either.

    To many people marriage is a man and a woman, however when you throw in same sex marriage (which is not a normal household idea in most cases) people start to think so therefore when opposite sex marriage was introduced to FFXI there where not a lot of complaints (Because nobody bought the game just to marry a freaking fictional character) and THIS is why it did not crash but now your bringing in something irregular to the mass population of the world and you will see problems. Instead of asking for all of these problems by introducing either opposite marriage only or both opposite and same sex marriage howabout just leave it out? Its a terrible concept anyway, instead you all want to be so stubborn and selfish by asking for such a dumbass feature you do not care about other peoples real life feelings on the topic.
    Isn't it selfish for not considering the feelings of those who want or agree with same sex marriage as well? If they were to put it in the game, they should not be so narrow minded as to only follow the 'social norm'.

    By if, I mean when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Isn't it selfish for not considering the feelings of those who want or agree with same sex marriage as well? If they were to put it in the game, they should not be so narrow minded as to only follow the 'social norm'.
    I would agree, that itslef is selfish as well however that is why i said leave it out all together. Consider this, some people believe its ok to marry 13 year old children, and they really honestly believe it should be their right, are you apposed to it? And if you are apposed to it, why? who can say who is truly mature enough to be married? I think plenty of people between 16-18 and even 19-29 (an even older) are CLEARLY not mature enough to be married, why is age 18 without consent the law? isn't this narrow minded? Would you be ok if they started building this kind of thing in game? and to that extent how can you tell (pretend your a parent of a child that plays this game but you do not) your 13 year old daughter isn't in game marring a 40 year old man who claims to be 15? Just leave it out, its too confrontational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    I would agree, that itslef is selfish as well however that is why i said leave it out all together. Consider this, some people believe its ok to marry 13 year old children, and they really honestly believe it should be their right, are you apposed to it? And if you are apposed to it, why? who can say who is truly mature enough to be married? I think plenty of people between 16-18 and even 19-29 (an even older) are CLEARLY not mature enough to be married, why is age 18 without consent the law? isn't this narrow minded? Would you be ok if they started building this kind of thing in game? and to that extent how can you tell (pretend your a parent of a child that plays this game but you do not) your 13 year old daughter isn't in game marring a 40 year old man who claims to be 15? Just leave it out, its too confrontational.
    That is why online interactions cannot be rated. Every game that has the ability to have online interactions with others tells you that. If it isnt somewhere on the box of FFXIV it needs to be >.>. Thus the parent of that 13 year old should probably play the game with that 13 year old and make sure that 13 year old doesn't do anything crazy. But then again it is up to that parent now.

    Actually it does say it, right under the T rating.

    And, laws that nation/state leaders come up with determine such things as marrying 13 year olds.... its not a moral issue, its a legal issue. Moral for the ones that want it i suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    That is why online interactions cannot be rated. Every game that has the ability to have online interactions with others tells you that. If it isnt somewhere on the box of FFXIV it needs to be >.>. Thus the parent of that 13 year old should probably play the game with that 13 year old and make sure that 13 year old doesn't do anything crazy. But then again it is up to that parent now.

    Actually it does say it, right under the T rating.

    And, laws that nation/state leaders come up with determine such things as marrying 13 year olds.... its not a moral issue, its a legal issue. Moral for the ones that want it i suppose.
    why is it a legal issue and not a moral issue? People used to marry so young all the time. Are you saying that you think its moral for a 30 year old man to marry a 13 year old girl?
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    Now we are getting into opinions about what is clearly right and clearly wrong. Homosexuals are allowed in the US military now because it was Clearly wrong to prohibit them, it just took a lot of work getting all the old fogeys to change their minds (or wait for them to die). If you want to be one of the guys that marries a 13 year old, just wait till all the world leaders that are against it to keel over, become one yourself, and change it. Its more legal than moral. Its also clearly wrong to prohibit same sex marriage. clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Now we are getting into opinions about what is clearly right and clearly wrong. Homosexuals are allowed in the US military now because it was Clearly wrong to prohibit them, it just took a lot of work getting all the old fogeys to change their minds (or wait for them to die). If you want to be one of the guys that marries a 13 year old, just wait till all the world leaders that are against it to keel over, become one yourself, and change it. Its more legal than moral. Its also clearly wrong to prohibit same sex marriage. clearly.
    Too people who follow one or more different religions, it is clearly wrong for people of the same sex to be married, therefore YOU are as narrow minded as the rest of everybody else on the other side of the fence.

    You haven't answered why marrying a 13 year old girl is a legal issue and not a moral issue. just saying that it is isn't an answer either.
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    I did, because the leaders said so. The world is going away from prohibiting same sex marriage now. No reason to continue to do so anywhere, even in the game world. When marriage comes, same sex marriage should come with it.

    Also, the country way back when use to be pretty dominated by religion. Why do you think priests think its ok to molest little boys who confide in them? Who were the ones way back when who believed it was ok to marry 13 year olds? The people, who are dead. The world and the US doesn't believe in those things anymore, and laws are in place against them. Same sex marriage prohibitions are going away because the nation is breaking away from that domination, maybe at some point polygamy will go away too. The 10 commandments got taken off the walls of classrooms because the nation is breaking away from that domination. Things change. starting to allow same sex marriage in games is one of the changes that very well can and should happen.
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