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    Quote Originally Posted by Quatre View Post
    If you guys really want to get started on the whole "This is just a word" point, you may as well go around calling each other nigg**s,

    Secondly, Dubont i'm not exactly sure how you are under the impression the "GLBT community TOOK those words and changed their meaning" It's similarly how black people didn't come up with the N word. They were created to BE derogatory.

    Thirdly. You refer to Homosexuals as "Them" "They call themselves fags! They made the word! They're asking for it!" This amount of ignorance and elitism is unacceptable. WE are people, whatever a persons orientation is does NOT make them separate from you in ANY way. Perhaps your friend got mad at you because you say you are his friend yet disrespect him and think of him on a whole level below you. I'm surprised you didn't start calling him an It, I guess you haven't hit rock bottom yet.



    Funny enough, I totally agree with you. Screw Marriage in the game. It's a useless messed up tool created by corrupt societies anyway....
    Marriage means different things to different people tho . some use it for love, some use it for political reasons, some use it for monetary gain.... etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quatre View Post
    If you guys really want to get started on the whole "This is just a word" point, you may as well go around calling each other nigg**s,

    Secondly, Dubont i'm not exactly sure how you are under the impression the "GLBT community TOOK those words and changed their meaning" It's similarly how black people didn't come up with the N word. They were created to BE derogatory.

    Thirdly. You refer to Homosexuals as "Them" "They call themselves fags! They made the word! They're asking for it!" This amount of ignorance and elitism is unacceptable. WE are people, whatever a persons orientation is does NOT make them separate from you in ANY way. Perhaps your friend got mad at you because you say you are his friend yet disrespect him and think of him on a whole level below you. I'm surprised you didn't start calling him an It, I guess you haven't hit rock bottom yet.



    Funny enough, I totally agree with you. Screw Marriage in the game. It's a useless messed up tool created by corrupt societies anyway....
    man, them and they is just a word used to point out two or more of something. It would be no different in calling men them or women they or dogs they or Egyptians them, (do you like orange trees? I've never seen them before!) you've got some serious issues on the subject and THIS is why this trash marriage idea should be left out of this game because not EVERYONE (i hope 'everyone' doesn't offend you Quatre) can agree on the subject and its a little more then game mechanics... its a real life issue. Offending people on real life issues is not a good business strategy.
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    As mentioned, other MMO's have done it, and did not go crashing and burning from doing it. FFXI added marriage too, and did not crash and burn from it either.
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    Damn near every MMO from Ultima Online to Rift has some sort of wedding service. This game will be no exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    As mentioned, other MMO's have done it, and did not go crashing and burning from doing it. FFXI added marriage too, and did not crash and burn either.
    Though in XI it's for opposite sex partners only and it pretty much sux. I'd hate to see them pull a bigoted move like that again, especially since XIV is full of sexual references everywhere, straight or gay, and some of them are quite racy may I add >_> I'd rather have no marriage at all than witnessing this all over again.

    It screws over the whole community as people roleplaying an opposite sex of their real life one get cut out too. What about all the straight guys trapped in Miqo'te bodies?
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    This is true, but Yoshida said they plan on having male miqo'te and female roeg's by PS3 Release ! Even so, there would still be those man cats out there who would stay female cat, and they shouldn't be banned from marriage with a female happening to be playing a female or even another male happening to be playing a female for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    As mentioned, other MMO's have done it, and did not go crashing and burning from doing it. FFXI added marriage too, and did not crash and burn from it either.
    FFXI did not promote same sex marriage either.

    To many people marriage is a man and a woman, however when you throw in same sex marriage (which is not a normal household idea in most cases) people start to think so therefore when opposite sex marriage was introduced to FFXI there where not a lot of complaints (Because nobody bought the game just to marry a freaking fictional character) and THIS is why it did not crash but now your bringing in something irregular to the mass population of the world and you will see problems. Instead of asking for all of these problems by introducing either opposite marriage only or both opposite and same sex marriage howabout just leave it out? Its a terrible concept anyway, instead you all want to be so stubborn and selfish by asking for such a dumbass feature you do not care about other peoples real life feelings on the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    FFXI did not promote same sex marriage either.

    To many people marriage is a man and a woman, however when you throw in same sex marriage (which is not a normal household idea in most cases) people start to think so therefore when opposite sex marriage was introduced to FFXI there where not a lot of complaints (Because nobody bought the game just to marry a freaking fictional character) and THIS is why it did not crash but now your bringing in something irregular to the mass population of the world and you will see problems. Instead of asking for all of these problems by introducing either opposite marriage only or both opposite and same sex marriage howabout just leave it out? Its a terrible concept anyway, instead you all want to be so stubborn and selfish by asking for such a dumbass feature you do not care about other peoples real life feelings on the topic.
    Isn't it selfish for not considering the feelings of those who want or agree with same sex marriage as well? If they were to put it in the game, they should not be so narrow minded as to only follow the 'social norm'.

    By if, I mean when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Isn't it selfish for not considering the feelings of those who want or agree with same sex marriage as well? If they were to put it in the game, they should not be so narrow minded as to only follow the 'social norm'.
    I would agree, that itslef is selfish as well however that is why i said leave it out all together. Consider this, some people believe its ok to marry 13 year old children, and they really honestly believe it should be their right, are you apposed to it? And if you are apposed to it, why? who can say who is truly mature enough to be married? I think plenty of people between 16-18 and even 19-29 (an even older) are CLEARLY not mature enough to be married, why is age 18 without consent the law? isn't this narrow minded? Would you be ok if they started building this kind of thing in game? and to that extent how can you tell (pretend your a parent of a child that plays this game but you do not) your 13 year old daughter isn't in game marring a 40 year old man who claims to be 15? Just leave it out, its too confrontational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    I would agree, that itslef is selfish as well however that is why i said leave it out all together. Consider this, some people believe its ok to marry 13 year old children, and they really honestly believe it should be their right, are you apposed to it? And if you are apposed to it, why? who can say who is truly mature enough to be married? I think plenty of people between 16-18 and even 19-29 (an even older) are CLEARLY not mature enough to be married, why is age 18 without consent the law? isn't this narrow minded? Would you be ok if they started building this kind of thing in game? and to that extent how can you tell (pretend your a parent of a child that plays this game but you do not) your 13 year old daughter isn't in game marring a 40 year old man who claims to be 15? Just leave it out, its too confrontational.
    That is why online interactions cannot be rated. Every game that has the ability to have online interactions with others tells you that. If it isnt somewhere on the box of FFXIV it needs to be >.>. Thus the parent of that 13 year old should probably play the game with that 13 year old and make sure that 13 year old doesn't do anything crazy. But then again it is up to that parent now.

    Actually it does say it, right under the T rating.

    And, laws that nation/state leaders come up with determine such things as marrying 13 year olds.... its not a moral issue, its a legal issue. Moral for the ones that want it i suppose.
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