Repairing Repairs

[KumaAkuma]

Stupid. This game is becoming more and more shallow.

[leomax]

dark matter isn't that space stuffs? XD

i welcome the change

[Rinsui]

Stupid. This game is becoming more and more shallow.

Convenient. The only thing that's become notably more shallow is my inventory ^.^/

[Rjain]

How exactly is the idea stupid?
Because it is too "simple"?
Well, I always thought I have better things to do than pull repair materials from retainer A and B, repair, then stuff them back to not waste too much on-body inventory space. And yesterday I had to repair my doublet. Unluckily I was in Gridania, so there were no Fents on sale. So I had to run to the local guild, buy some cotton, craft some cloth, turn it into spetches, and finally repair my doublet. Which left me with 3 unneeded cotton, 2 clothes and 11 fents in my inventory, and 20 minutes less in my pocket.

Not exactly what I had planned for my daily 2 hours of gaming.

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carry all your repair mats in your main inventory.

I'm not sure who the hell people think they are when they complain about inventory space in this game. How many of you played FFXI? Sure, I don't want this game to be like FFXI in terms of inventory because that was ludicrous, but playing that game for a long time will teach you how to manage your inventory properly. Stop hoarding [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] . In FFXI you had a hundred times more items than in this game, with smaller stacks (12 max I think with many items like ore not even stacking at all), with like 30 or 50 slots max which you could expand. In this game YOU HAVE THREE HUNDRED plus bazaar slots and you guys are still complaining. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] learn to be tidy.

Did people ever stop to consider the repairs are one of the most useful things crafters do other than make items? The fact that you have a variety of items you can make to use for repairs and make money off of it? By the sounds of it this stupid dark matter thing is going to totally mess up the repair "economy" and make the whole thing next to useless, and make crafters seem even less efficient.

[bahley]

My initial reaction to reading this forum is that I cannot believe there were people that actually liked the old repair system. I was not aware that was possible.

Anyway, this sounds good, but like with all the planned changes, I'm waiting until the actual patch is released before I make any judgements.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

also zen I POST ON MY PS3 AND HAVEN'T BEEN ON THIS FORUM IN A MNTH. >.> i hope that is noticeable. I played ffxi on my brother/family laptop and had limited time on it. Though sometimes I sneacked on it. As for the rerolling. I've always had a reroll habit. Not that i get bored it is i just can't decide. You do not have to play an mmo to long to have space issues if you do not know how to manage it. I know how to manage inventory. Playing ffxi for 7 years kinda does that for ya. In ffxi i had level just about every job. i took a few to max. What I did was level 3 jobs at a time. I would 1 pick gear used for multiple jobs. 2 sell gear if i stop playing that class for a while.

You guys horded stuff w/o a real need to do so. I never had such an issue. It is game mats can always be farmed and gear can always be bought again or made.
Again there is no reason to pick on me, for saying the word dumb. I think ffxiv duct tape is dumb. I do not hate it.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

i'm actually waiting on any duct tape redneck jokes.

[lackofwords]

No, it won't if its not a rare item and easily synthable by everyone, which probably will be the case.

Did you not read the notes? "Dark matter can be obtained from vendor NPCs, as guildleve rewards, and through gathering."

And even if it "easily obtainable" it's like saying shard crystals are going to be cheap because it's simply easily obtainable. Only problem is you've left demand out of the equation.

Since this item, dark matter, is going to repair a HUGE range of items, it will create a HUGE demand for it. Oppose to what a Maple Plank CAN repair, which has a small demand for that particular item. If you don't see that the intrinsic value increased from that, and in portion which will also increase its gil value, then I don't know how else to explain it to you.

Maybe this example would help you understand what I'm getting at;
What would happen cost-wise if instead of different elemental crystals for crafting, there was only 1 crystal. Would that crystal cost more than lets say what the current crystals cost now? Maybe yes, if your crystal is one of the low demand ones, but maybe not, if it is one of the extremely high demand ones.

For those who missed the post, I'm comparing what it would have cost now, oppose to what it will cost to repair an item after patch 1.18 via materials vs dark matter.

[Leknaat]

While it sucks... I do welcome the fact that I don't have to carry 50 items to repair stuff anymore.

To whoever was claiming they played 'smart' - maybe your LS doesn't regularily ask you to repair stuff of varying levels and crafts. I actually try to be nice to people in my LS and repair whatever I see in their bazaar - hence I try to carry as many of the common materials as I can. It'll be nice to reduce that load to just a few simple items. And if I don't carry that tier of dark matter I can always send the person off to buy the dark matter.

It might suck to build up a supply of dark matter for a few weeks though if the NPC price is too high :/

Memo to self: make sure all gear is repaired before patch so I don't have to worry about needing repairs immediately following patch :P

My initial reaction to reading this forum is that I cannot believe there were people that actually liked the old repair system. I was not aware that was possible.

I didn't HATE it but I did dislike how some crafts like carpenter required so many different repair materials while weaver only had to carry.... a few different fents.

Now I can vendor/use all the NQ stuff I've been keeping around for repairs and just focus on stockpiling my hq materials

[Zenaku]

also zen I POST ON MY PS3 AND HAVEN'T BEEN ON THIS FORUM IN A MNTH. >.> i hope that is noticeable. I played ffxi on my brother/family laptop and had limited time on it. Though sometimes I sneacked on it. As for the rerolling. I've always had a reroll habit. Not that i get bored it is i just can't decide. You do not have to play an mmo to long to have space issues if you do not know how to manage it. I know how to manage inventory. Playing ffxi for 7 years kinda does that for ya. In ffxi i had level just about every job. i took a few to max. What I did was level 3 jobs at a time. I would 1 pick gear used for multiple jobs. 2 sell gear if i stop playing that class for a while.

You guys horded stuff w/o a real need to do so. I never had such an issue. It is game mats can always be farmed and gear can always be bought again or made.
Again there is no reason to pick on me, for saying the word dumb. I think ffxiv duct tape is dumb. I do not hate it.

Do you know how much zinc ore and copper ore cost at the amount i have? even if gil is easy to make that waste of gil i could be using to buy crystal/shards. Once again yes you do need to get high enough to really understand the game maybe if you get a craft high enough like blacksmith or something that need many type of mats every level range and then you have to use it again to make other type you have to stay with the mats you had before.

Sorry is not horded when you really need the item smart one -.- in ffxi my gf level up pretty much all the mage what the hell do you want us to do with 10-15+ rare,ex item for each class? toss it and do the long ass quest again? that just dumb many of the gear and item in ffxi and in ffxiv is needed and for me as a craft when crafting blacksmith and other type of craft i alway need the item i using for more then one type of level range so why should i toss 50stacks of copper if am going to use it again in about 5-8levels?

I had enough of you your a joke a hopeless person at the end you think you right and everyone is wrong you don't even understand that when you have a lot of craft and need all the mats you can't just toss them out that easy.

tossing out mats,gear,item you going to use again and again is a dumb idea am not going to waste gil, and time just to get it again within 2-7days when i need them again,.

i had enough talking to you good luck