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  1. #91
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    Jarvix's Avatar
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    Adrian Silverthorn
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    I was leveling WHM to 50 last week in the doody finder. I had mabe 3-4 Qarn runs here I had 1 or 2 members without a soul crystal. Constantly dying to Taurus doom, bee final sting, and refusing to get out of AoE. Stone Vigil again members without soul crystals. I had gladiator there with 1.5k HP. Daezmel Darkhold? People standing outside of the light and eating eye for me or not dodging frog AoE, dying and complaining. Because I needed the EXP,I tried to stay and tell people what to do with no attitude, until it got stupid.

    I'm not gonna help people that won't help themselves.
    Gets very frustrating. It's not the new players willing to learn.

    Copperbell (Farming Foestriker) LvL 47 Summoner summons Titan. I ask Titan really? No response. Part way the healer starts to get connection issues and DC's I continue to pull. I am dying and Monk in group says. "Heal the Tank". No heal and Summoner says- "I'm not a healer." Hate to tell you at this lvl you have the same heal as a CONJ does. So yes I quit.
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  3. #92
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    Sassi666's Avatar
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    Character
    Julie Noted
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Weird. He might as well have tried the boss. The requirement for the atma books is to be alive at the end of the boss fight. By leaving he had to wait 30 mins before he could queue again. I don't understand some people...
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  4. #93
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Character
    Kochie Monster
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    My former FC boss would be like this. As soon as roulette was introduced he would run as tank.... not Titan story mode? I'll just afk till they boot me. Sure. Probably saved himself 10 minutes there. ... good job. Guess what, NO ONE LIKES YOU NOW
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  5. #94
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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    Character
    Knives Stryfe
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarvix View Post
    Gets very frustrating. It's not the new players willing to learn.

    Copperbell (Farming Foestriker) LvL 47 Summoner summons Titan. I ask Titan really? No response. Part way the healer starts to get connection issues and DC's I continue to pull. I am dying and Monk in group says. "Heal the Tank". No heal and Summoner says- "I'm not a healer." Hate to tell you at this lvl you have the same heal as a CONJ does. So yes I quit.
    Sounds like the making of yet another summoner that puts out no dps and will never raise anybody cause its the healer's job. I despise seeing summoners in DF cause its one of those jobs where if you don't know what ur doing your gonna be doing extremely bad dps when compared to even below average players playing the other dps jobs. Don't get me wrong I know smn is a powerhouse job when played correctly, its the played correctly part that eludes alot of the smns ive seen. Just because you put up all your dots doesnt mean you can just stand there twiddling your thumbs waiting for them to drop off. The spell ruin does still exist last I checked. And you can't even tell some of these ppl anything cause they flip out about being told how to do their job when you are only offering advice to maximize their sad dmg output. Not even talking about beginners who are learning doing sub level 50 dungeons either. I'm talking ilvl 50+ people doing HM dungeons like this. By now they should have grasped the mechanics of the job they've been using for so long.
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    Last edited by Dimitrii; 07-23-2014 at 05:36 AM.

  6. #95
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    DragonHunterG's Avatar
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    Character
    Cyan Garamonde
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    tbh ive quit dungeons as a tank for reasons i shouldnt have. 30 min. penalty is quite lenient imo because i can easily find something else to do in game for a measly 30 min., or just take a break and come back a bit later. i dont feel punished at all and queue times are just about instant.
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  7. #96
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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Gralya Arodica
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Easy fix, make it so once you queue to a roulette, whatever encounter you get your stuck with till you complete it. Leave or DC? when you queue it again you get same duty.
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  8. #97
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Miles Saintborough
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Easy fix, make it so once you queue to a roulette, whatever encounter you get your stuck with till you complete it. Leave or DC? when you queue it again you get same duty.
    Ok, then I'll just troll people until they kick me out if I decide I don't want to stay in a bad group any longer.

    Your next move.
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  9. #98
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Character
    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    This won't help for ones that leave legitimately and eat the penalty...



    On the other hand, if they eat the 30 minute penalty, well, I don't think anyone should be forced to stay. AFKing/DCing at start is just scummy.

    Even if they don't say anything, if they AFK or DC at start, I would still try reporting it because GMs can probably see if this person makes a pattern of it or if it's just a one off. I looked at my character's files and AFAICT logs go all the way back to when the character first enters Eorzea.
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  10. #99
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Character
    Last Hero
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    The problem is tanks fishing for an in-progress run. SE's dungeon finder is literally the worst system I have ever seen. No other game does this - one tried, saw how fail it was and immediately patched it - but in XIV it persists.

    The way to solve this is remove the "Join Party in Progress". Everyone gets filtered into dungeons as slots open up, in-progress run or not. No one can see how many bosses are dead. You want a full run? Queue up the dungeon by itself.

    And then fix the design of the dungeons so they don't take 30 minutes to an hour. That's too long for a 5 man dungeon, nevermind a 4 man dungeon. 15-20 minutes is about right for fresh 50 dungeon roulette content. Raids should be long, 4 mans should not.
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  11. #100
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    Zefiris's Avatar
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    Character
    Limwris Abriel
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    If player dislike low dungeon (in roulette), better go do some of 3 new dungeon. Also give 100 Myth. Today I saw a tank quit in first pull in Cutter Cry. I presume was penalized in 30 minutes. And when arrived other tank (after 1 minute), we finish dungeon in 20 minutes.
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