Tanks keep leaving the dungeon

[Puwarh]

When I queue for a dungeon many times till now I still have the problem with tank leaving the moment the duty start. And It's ALWAYS THE TANK, it never happen to Healers or DPSes.

Guys we have the same 24 hr in a day, you know? Isn't it a cheating? As DPS I have to wait 15-30 mins to get into one random or not, as Healer sometimes instance sometime more than 10 min. May be you are gonna stuck in a super low level that make you bored in random but it's random you choose to run in DF isn't it? Sometime I do a random and end up on Titan that I super hate but I at least still try to complete it.

I think time penalty is not enough for tank that take their leave like that may be some large amount of Tomb of solitary lost or force their gear to drop may help?

If you don't want random just DON'T queue as random, even if the number of tank drop to 0 that's ok by me and that mean I will just have to ask some tank in my FC to join before it start. If you do queue for random, than please at least try what you started, leaving after a few wipe is bad, but leave with out trying is the worst.

I do know some Healers and DPSes do leave the same manor of some tank (never met one before) and they should be punish in the same way. but as it goes leaving DPSes does not pose as many problem as tanks and healers.

[PetiteMalFleur]

I dropped a dungeon yesterday immediately after queuing in because the dragoon was in full spiritbonding gear with intelligence jewelry. There are a lot of reasons people drop. Should we take the time to evaluate every single one? 30 minute penalty is more time than most any dungeon takes to complete, even with new players.

They recently increased the myth reward for completing dungeons with new people. I think it will help a lot.

[Yoninxi]

If i don't want a dungeon, i'm not gonna waste my time doing it. I leveled dps first, saw how crap the DF times were on the way to 50, then leveled tank and healer. Never looking back. Blame SE for boring dungeons like Toto-Rak and Fail Vigil. 30 Minute penalty is better than dragging through toto for 45 minutes

[Lithera]

I can clear Toto-Rak in a little over 30 minutes with a pair of fresh DPS as long as I'm controlling the dungeon by rolling tank. I'll choose whether to hit up the side rooms or not (normally I do since for anyone not 50 this is an exping dungeon run and I respect that) and if we don't hit side rooms that dungeon can move along nicely. Stone Vigil can move fast too though it's a bit more of a crap shoot. Anyways...let's say it takes 45-50 minutes in an SV because a newer DPS catches aggro and the group wipes...assuming you requeue low level roulette again after you ditch us you've used up the 30 minutes of the penalty AND now unless you get a Primal Story Mode you're probably still looking at at least another 30 minutes worth of dungeon. Instead of being done your roulette in 45 mins or so you've now used up not only that 45 minutes but another 15-20 depending on how well your replacement dungeon goes (which could be the same dungeon FYI)

[Lithera]

I had a tank ditch on Titan HM on my Trial Roulette yesterday. Got a good laugh when we proceeded to one shot it. I've one shot near every Titan HM I've gotten in DR. To add another example since it's on my mind now, let's say you're doing EX Roulette solo as a tank and you don't like Amdapor City. You're seriously going to bail and eat the 30 minutes when you can clear Amdapor City in less than 25 minutes? My last experience in AC actually involved a tank who intentionally DCed so we would kick him. All of us were quite patient however and sat quietly until he reconnected. He proceeded to DC AGAIN so we patiently waited out another 10 mins before finally ejecting him. He may as well have just ran it with us. He wasn't getting the satisfaction of getting kicked and rerouletting for a potential Bray.

[PetiteMalFleur]

I clear toto in 20 minutes. 15 if the healer helps dps. SV takes 30 if I kick the dps who decides to pull for me.

I always get toto. So sick of that dungeon.

[Kaethra]

We have a 'tank' in this thread saying they'd rather sit out for 30 minutes than run Toto in 45? I have to say this.. people like that leaving are actually doing you all a favor. My pugilist (aka monk before 30) in foestriker could tank Toto Rak in under 30 minutes with just a healer and another dps (have to tank sometimes because of sketchy tanks). If you're healer is willing and able, non-clothie DPS can tank some of these lower level dungeons alright. So don't worry about losing 'tank's. And of course I put tank in quotes because those people aren't tanks, their leeches. As I said, them leaving is doing you a favor and saving a headache.

That math doesn't add up.. 45 minutes is not more than 30 minutes of debuff plus 25 minutes of an 'awesome' run. Which such a tank cannot pull off with such an attitude anyway.

[ispano]

That math doesn't add up.. 45 minutes is not more than 30 minutes of debuff plus 25 minutes of an 'awesome' run. Which such a tank cannot pull off with such an attitude anyway.

Except they can do other things in that 30 minutes.

[Adler]

lol. Problem is that there are sometimes completely useless players who can't play any role so they end up being tanks or healers "because everybody need tank or healer and you just have to live with that". So these "special" people often leave the roulette dungeons they simply can't complete right at start.

Btw, have seen paladin in all soldiery gear running Brayflox hm and using only Flash the whole run. He usually took groups of 3 mobs and barely could keep hate of 1 but he kept bitching about having melee dps in group which has ruined his chance for speed run. I think it took about an hour to finish run and I would better have him leave at start.

[Doge]

Funny i dropped a expert roulette a week or so ago for the same reason. A drg with crafting/int/gathering gear.