Who is gonna raid now with the iLvl 110 gear handed to people??

[Zarzak]

no, it doesn't.

non-raid people are okay if everyone is i110.

only people like you are not okay with everyone being i110.

a snowflake implies uniqueness, if the non-raid people is okay with everyone being the same, they are not upset that they can't be snowflakes. they are upset they can't be the same as everyone else who plays.

being upset at not being equal is not the same as being upset at not being different.

your logic is so bad.

I think it is implied they want to be special too, being clad i110 gear.

^ Apparently this concept was too hard to grasp.

Crying you can't be in raid gear without raiding.



Also I'm not 110 nor do I raid currently. Haven't in a couple months. But I am yet to go through the devolution that makes me suddenly believe I should get raid loot without raiding. I have a gun ready for that day... I don't want to turn into some illogical soulless monster that kills genres.

[Kallera]

^ Apparently this concept was too hard to grasp.

Crying you can't be in raid gear without raiding.



Also I'm not 110 nor do I raid currently. Haven't in a couple months. But I am yet to go through the devolution that makes me suddenly believe I should get raid loot without raiding. I have a gun ready for that day... I don't want to turn into some illogical soulless monster that kills genres.

Face it man, its the number, not the stats. If the ilevel was listed as 111 or 115 you'd be all smiles.

[Zarzak]

Face it man, its the number, not the stats. If the ilevel was listed as 111 or 115 you'd be all smiles.

You mean if the raid gear was superior to the non raid gear? Well since that's the core of the issue.... yea.

[Kallera]

You mean if the raid gear was superior to the non raid gear? Well since that's the core of the issue.... yea.

Good, glad to know its purely your own ego that's hurt. The higher stats aren't enough for you?

[Sygmaelle]

Since its like 5% difference max I dont think anyone should be upset

[Eissels]

You mean if the raid gear was superior to the non raid gear? Well since that's the core of the issue.... yea.

I promise you'll be happier if you stop caring about other people's shit and just focus on your own stuff.

[Black91CRX]

I promise you'll be happier if you stop caring about other people's shit and just focus on your own stuff.

Pretty much nailed it

[Brine_Gildchaff]

^ Apparently this concept was too hard to grasp.

Crying you can't be in raid gear without raiding.

Since when does soldiery gear count as "raid gear"? Raid gear is the High Allagan sets and the i115 weapons. Soldiery gear is like myth gear: the equal-level gear that non-raiders can get by putting in a significant portion of time and effort on other content instead of doing the raid for ~2 hours each week, and limited in how quickly someone can obtain it due to tomestone caps. In fact, it's -harder- to get and requires -more- time and effort than myth gear did because the lockout is lower and soldiery drops in smaller numbers than did myth, and you have to do two steps: soldiery grind for weathered, then hunt/SCoB/2.35 Syrcus grinding to get sands.

(And before you go whinging that people can get sands with zero effort, no they can't. I hunt. I make a party of eight and go scouring the zones, sometimes with one or two people getting info from their LS. My best run we went for 3~4 hours and I ended up with 350 seals by the end, and not a single log to show for it. And even if they could, they're -still- time locked because you need the base soldiery gear to -upgrade- no matter how many sands you get. I've been playing since the 2.2 patch came along and I've only failed to cap one week. I'm only -just- now starting to look at gearing up classes besides my main two. And that's -without- buying a single soldiery weapon, I have animus sword, novus shield, and a thyrus that's one final book away from animus status.)

I don't see what the problem is with having some cut-off to reward people for actually playing through end-game content.

We have that. It's called High Allagan gear (which is BiS for many slots and earns you instant respect from anyone who sees you have it) and even more noticeably, the High Allagan weapons. Even my hard-made Novus doesn't compare to High Allagan, and I've spent far, far more time and work on that than raiders do on Second Coil.

[Zarzak]

Since when does soldiery gear count as "raid gear"? Raid gear is the High Allagan sets and the i115 weapons.

Soldiery isn't. Soldiery + sand/oil is.

ilvl 110 = raid tier gear this isn't hard to figure out.

Good, glad to know its purely your own ego that's hurt. The higher stats aren't enough for you?

Mine? No I don't raid atm.

What higher stats? You get the same tier of gear if you sit in town and follow the <pos> calls.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

Soldiery isn't. Soldiery + sand/oil is.

ilvl 110 = raid tier gear this isn't hard to figure out.

Soldiery gear is not raid gear and never has been. Sands and oils were planned from the beginning to be available through routes other than Coil. Why are you complaining about having two MONTHS where you got to have this gear before everyone else? Or are you one of those strange people who complained that nobody would do Coil because people would just buy all myth gear back in 2.0/2.1?

What higher stats? You get the same tier of gear if you sit in town and follow the <pos> calls.

First off, no you don't. If you just sit idle until someone shouts and then you zone in and run to the mob, at -least- two times out of three you're going to get there just when the mob has finished dying. If you're not actively hunting with others you're not getting jack doodly sh**. Second, the majority of BiS gear is in fact High Allagan. Case in point: I looked through ariyala and chose my BiS gear for paladin and white mage. I currently require five sands -total- to upgrade them, and four oils (I've gotten one of each so far). Everything else I am going to have to fill in with High Allagan, supplementing with Syrcus gear until I can manage a raid. You do NOT have the best gear in the game purely by hunting.