Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[whiskeybravo]

So Monks are the kings of st dps atm, that much I know. Someone on my server has been saying DRG is one of the worst st dps in the game now after BLM got buffed. I'm curious if that's even true now, so where does DRG stand in the st dps area? Other than monk, which dps are the highest/lowest st dps?

I could only see that possibly happening on a dummy test where a blm doesn't move an inch. Would also depend a bit on thundercloud/firestarter procs. I don't really know, but if it was one of those "my blm parsed higher than your drg, once" that wouldn't really count in my book.

[pompey_dan]

Most people just look at t8 parses where blm/smn can greatly pad their numbers with double flare/contagion when the dreads are up, purely single target i.e over a 5 min period on training dummy I would think we are much higher in list.

MNK > DRG > SMN > BLM > BRD maybe ???

[beowulf81]

what are everyone's thoughts on the ST drg gear? specifically the chest and legs pieces, which combined give 54 det and 52 acc.

I understand that it is generally accepted that higher ilevel gear is better, but the difference in strength between ilvl100 and ilvl110 chest/leg pieces is 5 str - if we take 1 det = 0.32 str, then the combined ST chest/legs 54 det would equate to 17 strength. Which in my mind should more than compensate for the loss of 10 str you would get from unweathered astrum mail and HA legs. If I have this wrong then please correct me.

If you are able to hit 512 acc with the ST chest and legs (combined acc of 52 certainly helps), would 54 det be considered better than 10 str?

[whiskeybravo]

what are everyone's thoughts on the ST drg gear? specifically the chest and legs pieces, which combined give 54 det and 52 acc.

I'm personally aiming to get that ST chest at least (mainly for the accuracy). The pants are nice, but replacing both Wyrms Mail and Astrum pants is a huge Crit loss I'm not able to swallow yet (-62 crit/-26 sksp for +52 acc/+30 det). For me, I have my set built around the accuracy from Animus (I actually only need like 27 acc for 493 set), so the pants would only help if I got the Liberator.

[Andrens]

the difference in strength between ilvl100 and ilvl110 chest/leg pieces is 5 str - if we take 1 det = 0.32 str, then the combined ST chest/legs 54 det would equate to 17 strength. If you are able to hit 512 acc with the ST chest and legs (combined acc of 52 certainly helps), would 54 det be considered better than 10 str?

Please for the love of god can any l33t teorycrafter respond to this? it's the same thing i'm thinking since the release of ST.
Since 1 DET is 0.32 STR, there's some gear that may be better in terms of stats weight then the 110 stuff (or close at least)

I can reach the ACC cap (512) wearing some ST stuff instead of Astrum and can compensate every stats loss ( Crit etc) with some HQ Food

I'll ask this aswell. Would 54 DET be better then 10 STR? I repeat, this is NOT taking in consideration CRIT/SKill SPEED

[VaShawn]

What's the accuracy cap for non coil content?

And also for T5 and T6?

[whiskeybravo]

I'll ask this aswell. Would 54 DET be better then 10 STR? I repeat, this is NOT taking in consideration CRIT/SKill SPEED

You already have the answer.. 54 * .32 = ~17 str

What's the accuracy cap for non coil content?

And also for T5 and T6?

Some would say there is no accuracy.. I've personally recorded frontal misses in EX primals and HM/EX Dungeons at 353 accuracy (none from flank or rear, though). Some people I've asked seem to think the frontal accuracy for these dungeons and primals is actually around 415. (this doesn't matter too much really, except for AoE which sometimes counts as frontal which means it can miss.. Notable misses from EX primals is mainly Titan's Gaols which face the party)

IIRC T5 flank accuracy is 460-470 (same for LEX and MEX). T6 & T7 is 476ish, T8 & T9 is 493ish.. ** Not sure if REX is same as t5 accuracy, but likely **

[Andrens]

I know.. but still, seems odd and would be nice to have more opinions

[Maero]

That first page has me confused, lol.
I just got Dragoon status yesterday so have very limited abilities, what sort of rotations would any of you suggest in the level 30-45 or 40 range?

[JetBrooks]

I know.. but still, seems odd and would be nice to have more opinions

It is generally accepted that 1 DTR equals .32 STR. You're either going to get figures based on this heavily-tested theory, or... I dunno, people that refuse to believe that secondary stats can outweigh main stats? I dunno what you're looking for, here.

Oh wait, your post makes sense if you are in fact a person that refuses to believe in secondary stat weights.