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    Quote Originally Posted by Koroem View Post
    So exactly how blasphemous would it be for a dps (drg) to go outside the "accepted" norm of 44crit/31 det and use a few points of accuracy for the last 5 or 6 melds that really taper off success wise? I'm currently 53/75 and about to move on to tIV materia. Till now I have spirit bound all my own materia, and haven't been very lucky with obtaining useful IVs. Almost 100 pieces of gear so far with about another 30 to go and only 3 IVs.
    I don't think it's a bad idea. As a Summoner I put +8 in the Acc early on in doing my Novus and then realized if I went any further with that, that I wouldn't be able to make my Crit/Det stats be higher than the Animus. So I stopped with Acc and then had been thinking for a long time that I had messed up, because everyone I see is all wanting to do max Crit/Det only. But now that I'm on the final stretch of my Novus and on Tier IVs for Crit and Det I am glad I am not maxing them because that just means a lot of possible failures and at 400-500k+ a materia I am not about to just throw gil away and thankfully because I put those points into Acc early on my last few materia upgrades (currently 72/75) are Crit 96%, Det 94% then 88%. So hopefully I won't have to worry about any of those failing. The 88% one might.. but there's a higher chance that it will succeed rather than fail, and that's a chance I'll take.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niurok View Post
    So for PLD its 12 str 13 vit for shield? I still don't understand how this works. Am I suppose to go like 12 str first and then go vit? 5 materia per scroll and well right there I get confused.
    It doesn't work like that. Base stats like Str, Dex, Mnd, Int, Vit automatically upgrade to the level of an i110 weapon once you create the Novus. The only stats you can change/add/alter are: Accuracy, Crit, Skill Speed, Spell Speed, Parry, Piety, and Determination.

    This is the chart I used to plan out my Novus: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1095419961
    It lists the percent chance for every addition of mostly every materia type. At least the ones people are primarily using. It seems there's no data listed for Piety success %, probably because most people haven't added Piety to their weapons to find out.
    Anyway, I hope it helps you out some.
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    Last edited by Ecks007; 07-20-2014 at 11:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecks007 View Post
    It lists the percent chance for every addition of mostly every materia type. At least the ones people are primarily using. It seems there's no data listed for Piety success %, probably because most people haven't added Piety to their weapons to find out.
    Anyway, I hope it helps you out some.
    Pretty sure the Piety list is wrong for Thyrus.
    Tier I, II and III have 8 steps each with IV being the one that gets 9.
    I know because I added a lot of Piety, and had +24 when I could start on Tier IV.

    For reference, I'm currently at
    +23 Determination
    +26 Piety
    +16 Spell Speed

    I haven't really decided if I should cap Piety or leave it as is. Determination I'm not touching Tier IV due to insane materia prices.
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    Last edited by Nekodar; 07-21-2014 at 05:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Pretty sure the Piety list is wrong for Thyrus.
    They probably are, the reason they are in red is listed at the bottom of the chart. "Materia Tier distributions in Red are assumptions based on rounding the cap/4."
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