Spirit Binding In Syrcus Tower Needs To Stop

[Brine_Gildchaff]

I just don't think it's a big deal. If people are spirit-binding with their appropriate class stats, and they meet the ilvl req. It's not a big deal. I still clear the content, and move on.

And if they aren't? Go look at the picture the OP showed and try to tell me that's in any way appropriate gear. I have no problem with spiritbinding in Crystal Tower raids or even hardmode roulette dungeons (I did it a fair few times myself to spiritbond my Astral accessories) but it needs to be gear that makes actual sense.

Funny thing about this, is once we get addons, someone for sure is going to make one of these. Yoshi even commented recently that addons will have access to data the client receives, like damage data.

Additionally, I believe there was also talk of adding DPS meter functionality to striking dummies, albeit ones that could only be viewed by the attacking player.

[Merryl]

That picture in post 1 was extreme O.o
Kick and move on. But please don't outlaw all spirit bonding..what if someone wants to equip a piece of equipment they just got?

[Escadora]

And if they aren't? Go look at the picture the OP showed and try to tell me that's in any way appropriate gear.

That wasn't even my argument.. Most of the gear you're mentioning that he's wearing cannot even be converted.

I was referring to actually wearing things that you can convert into materia in these instances. Wearing gear that is appropriately stat based for your classes stats in instances to spirit-bind as long as you meet the ilvl requirement is fine by me. Not wearing a DoL chest if you're a DoW or DoM.

I wasn't arguing the OP's opinion (completely).

I have no problem with spiritbinding in Crystal Tower raids or even hardmode roulette dungeons (I did it a fair few times myself to spiritbond my Astral accessories) but it needs to be gear that makes actual sense.

My point.

Not sure if you were trying to call me out or not.

[Alistaire]

there was a topic about spirit binding, according to the dev post about this, we can freely kick these people, hopefully they sort out the system, but we can kick them with no ramification, the more people that start doing this, the more deterrence people will be spirit bonding gear like this.

I know that thread and that was definitely not what was said. OP's pic is funny though cause that head piece doesn't even convert.

Also, ST is easy, follow the mechanics.

Yoshida says it's okay to kick people who do this.

Wow, that misinterpretation is getting out of hand.

[Lucke]

Because that would suck for those few couple times I forgot to repair my weapon and luckily had a primal weapon on me I could switch to.

You can repair in dungeons now, so that's a moot point. If your DoHs are too low, then...level them up so you can repair in dungeons. Either that or deal with a broken weapon as punishment for not keeping up with repairs.

[Yurimi]

no you can't the post you're refering to was misinterpreted by the players to the OP about the PF group they joined. you are not allowed to and will be punished.

GM's will not act upon kicks that the group has in regards to most things, as shown in a couple threads about it the GM will pretty much only handle cases that you were kicked to manipulate loot drops going in favor of someone (and even that is kinda iffy).

In the end majority rules if a majority of people feel that you are a detriment to the group then it is their right to remove you, 5 > 1 regardless of how you want to swing it. 5 happy paying customers is more important than 1.

[Ronyx]

This will never stop until theres an easier way to get Materias so those almost half a million IV go down.

[Grey_Cain]

Either that or deal with a broken weapon as punishment for not keeping up with repairs.

You realize that a broken weapon with no way to repair or replace is infinitely worse than SBing, right? You could be in 11 slots of crafting/gathering gear with a functioning weapon and still be more effective than someone with a broken weapon but still functioning non-SB gear in every other slot.

[raelgun]

I know that thread and that was definitely not what was said. OP's pic is funny though cause that head piece doesn't even convert.


Wow, that misinterpretation is getting out of hand.

dont know about you, but the devs are giving us rights to how we feel about other players including their gear, if the group wants to remove such people, they can do and they wont get an backlash from it, all Im trying to do is stop such players maybe your self to try scaremonger players into having no choice into letting spiritbonders run rampant.

It is considered player dispute and per battle strat, its upto the group to decide on the matter and they have defo given us the green light at least on this case, this includes booting spiritbonders.

Also, perhaps you are misinterpreting the case, there are plenty of people here who also understood it to the same degree.

[Elven]

I wouldn't try anything lower than i70 gear and all accessories 90/100