Spirit Binding In Syrcus Tower Needs To Stop

[Eidolon]

Just disable spiritbonding in ST. Seriously, this should've been obvious to SE by now.

I mean, theoretically speaking, what if I make a party finder for 'crafter gear ST! Come join for maximum carries!" We get 8 people. We all take a set of armor.

We get into ST. And we all switch to Craftsman's i50 gear. Not only are we below-cap, we are not even using something that gives us stats - we might as well be ilevel 10 at that point.

[ksufoley]

Why waste the time to queue to ST or CT in the first place? Granted I've done it on trash in CT before but never on bosses just to see how fast it would be but the reality of it is this. The queue itself is longer than downing 3 to 4 full mobs of water elementals and you can fully bond at that point. Secondly, if you aren't the only one doing it, the chances are higher to wipe the entire raid and cause you to stay in the raid the full length or till people decide to abandon which isn't prime. All in all its just time lost by doing it anyways.

[Chiramu]

Just disable spiritbonding in ST. Seriously, this should've been obvious to SE by now.

If they disable morale in Frontlines then surely they can disable spirit bonding in ST... Why is it taking SE so long to resolve their problems? It's been such an awful week in FFXIV.

[ispano]

Why waste the time to queue to ST or CT in the first place? Granted I've done it on trash in CT before but never on bosses just to see how fast it would be but the reality of it is this. The queue itself is longer than downing 3 to 4 full mobs of water elementals and you can fully bond at that point. Secondly, if you aren't the only one doing it, the chances are higher to wipe the entire raid and cause you to stay in the raid the full length or till people decide to abandon which isn't prime. All in all its just time lost by doing it anyways.

The main issue with that is that the spot is often camped, so only a few people per server can take advantage of it at any given time. So people resort to instances to find L50 mobs.

[Verranicus]

Or it could be admitted that maybe spiritbonding isn't the best system to introduce into a game and make materia (only) obtainable via other means.

Don't get me wrong, Syrcus Tower IS an an easy raid, and there's no way that a raid is wiping due to some guy spiritbonding (for the record, I don't spiritbond - not in dungeons, not anywhere - I hate spiritbonding), as it's all about addressing mechanics (which people are notoriously bad at in this game for some reason).

Ironic that dev team won't introduce arguably necessary elements such as dps meters so people can see how they're doing and improve - all on the grounds "it will incite conflict between players" - and then they create (and keep) a system in the game that ACTIVELY ENCOURAGES players to wear trash gear when playing with strangers, as if there's no way that would ever incite conflict with anyone.

Go back to WoW with your DPS meters.

[Escadora]

until that mindset is spread across the whole ST and everyone is in the raid with crafting gear even though they meet the "ilvl requirement". Were you the person in High School that when assigned a group project with other classmates you made them do all the work which was double the effort since you brought little to nothing to the table and was able to get the credit for it and own beneficial gain even though you did practically nothing.

Nope, I actually wasn't! I appreciate the baseless assumption, though. It was cute.

I'm not even guilty of spirit-binding in CT or ST. I've seen my fair share of it in these instances as well and you know what? I just don't think it's a big deal. If people are spirit-binding with their appropriate class stats, and they meet the ilvl req. It's not a big deal. I still clear the content, and move on. CT/ST is not a serious raid at all so I don't feel the need to rip someone apart because they spirit bind in it.

dunno about you, but the post you quoted is the one thats whining the most, most others are having a calm debate.

I was talking about that specific point, there's a reason I highlighted it.

[soulofrebirth]

What irks me is that I get kicked for SBing Vanya casting gear on my BLM. I mean, the Vanya stuff is high lvl enough to get in normally AND most of the time I get the most aggro out of any non-tanks. If I pull my weight and I have gear that can get in, why would I be kicked?

[ispano]

Go back to WoW with your DPS meters.

Funny thing about this, is once we get addons, someone for sure is going to make one of these. Yoshi even commented recently that addons will have access to data the client receives, like damage data.

[LunarEmerald]

If they still meet the item level requirements for the instance then who are you to tell people what gear they can't use. I don't see a problem it's an easy raid.

Yoshida says it's okay to kick people who do this.

[ispano]

Actually they never said it was "ok" to kick for it. They mainly said that reports about player disputes, ie things like these, won't be handled. ie if the group asks the person not to, and he refuses and they kick him for it, that person's report won't do much of anything. If you get kicked silently on the other hand....