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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I'm sure there are plenty enough instances of people openly admiting they use such a program to make a example and show that they are actually being vigilant on this front.
    1. At least on my server no one really admits they use it. People only accuse people of using it.\
    2. Can't detect reading from memory unless they install something that breeches privacy on your pc.
    3. Even if the radar wasn't available the widespread popularity of hunts would not stop people from finding something when it spawns. (TODs are a powerful tool)
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    3. Even if the radar wasn't available the widespread popularity of hunts would not stop people from finding something when it spawns. (TODs are a powerful tool)
    TODs and massive amounts of people that search the area is what actually seems to have taken over for the most part. (at least on midgar)
    "only reading memory" radars don't help much without the TOD information, and with the amount of people that search for the marks, I'm starting to doubt that those radars actually provide much of an advantage to the people that use them.
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    Last edited by Nekodar; 07-20-2014 at 05:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    TODs and massive amounts of people that search the area is what actually seems to have taken over for the most part. (at least on midgar)
    "only reading memory" radars don't help much without the TOD information, and with the amount of people that search for the marks, I'm starting to doubt that those radars actually provide much of an advantage to the people that use them.

    Ya after reading into what radar does and how it functions, it has a limited scan range. Most people have a misconception that if you have the tool, walk into the zone, you'll see exactly where it is on the map. This means, giving the player base a legit radar won't really change anything because the radar doesn't really give the advantage people believes it gives. However, what works well is having 2 capped LS of people actively hunting and sharing info. Somehow magically seems to get you positions of hunt targets. Who would have guessed?
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    1. At least on my server no one really admits they use it. People only accuse people of using it.
    Trust me as a old hardened MMO player people are often less than discreet when they use these tools. Sure they aren't shouting it to the heavens but /tells and FC and LS chat will often betray many cheaters.

    Square Enix is good at hunting these people just because some apps can't be seen in active use doesn't mean they don't know how to investigate the cases. They just need to man up and start doing something about it right now they are dealing with it far to light handed. Something should be done and soon so they don't lose the respect of players that abstain from such practices, if they let it run rampant they send a message that it's ok to do.

    Yoshida saying things like "We wont deny people will use these just don't talk about them!" doesn't help them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Trust me as a old hardened MMO player people are often less than discreet when they use these tools. Sure they aren't shouting it to the heavens but /tells and FC and LS chat will often betray many cheaters.
    Yeah, I can think of several instances in other games where players would screenshot a conversation from a guild or party chat, and the player would suddenly disappear, and the next thing you know "XYXYX just skyped me to say his account got banned " This is usually because someone in the chat was part of the stealth anti-cheating group (people who have a direct line to GM's.) Make cheating inconvenient, and people will be less willing to go through the effort of doing it.
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