Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
That's nice, well i have done dungeons before with only 2 dps and 1 healer (Haukke HM) so tanks like yourself are by no means needed. Tanks after all are easy to come by
By the same token, most things can be done with no DPS, aside from things like Haukke HM that involve hard DPS checks (if she goes through 3 Beguiling Mist she will then eat one of your party members and Blood Rain the ever-living crap out of the rest). Try T1 with no tank sometime, though. All roles are equally needed and I really wish people would quit being so nasty about it. For every thing that doesn't require a certain role, there's one where it's absolutely necessary. Nobody is trivial, nobody is unneeded.

As far as tanks being easy to come by, tell that to my DF queues.

Quote Originally Posted by Jaarlask View Post
In DF if I tank (it was my main originally) in 8man, i better not pull off the MT, you call MT, you better hold it against me. and same for MT, if the OT pulls off me, it's time for me to step down.
I don't agree with this sentiment at all. The OT needs to know how to manage aggro so that they are second, not so that they are ripping hate off the MT and creating havoc. Sometimes (especially in things like Syrcus Tower or 8 man content) whoever wants to MT isn't the most geared tank in the party/alliance. I personally think everyone should be allowed the chance to tank things as long as they're geared appropriately for the content.

How about instances where there are tank swap mechanics? If you as OT are ripping hate in Ultima HM or Titan EX back onto you prematurely, you are dooming yourself. Managing your own aggro is part of what makes a good OT.