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  1. #11
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrAM View Post
    It's specialization, and yes, if you really care to compare it to real life, someone that spends time on one skill 'will' slowly lose skill at other things. A carpenter who switches careers to construction work and later goes back to carpentry isn't going to be as good at it as they were when they left.
    Tell that to Leonardi Da Vinci who was an Italian Renaissance polymath: painter, sculptor, architect, musician, mathematician, engineer, inventor, anatomist, geologist, cartographer, botanist, and writer.
    He didn't suddenly get bad at painting, just cause he was doing math and writing.
    And it doesn't make sense anyway, unles you de-level DoW/M/H/L classes/jobs, also.
    You can only take it to 100 for one class, you can cap max 3, cause you get 300 pts.
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  2. #12
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    ShinkuTachi's Avatar
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    Pyro Frost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    You can only take it to 100 for one class, you can cap max 3, cause you get 300 pts.
    You can only cap 2, each class starts at 1 and is subtracted from the 300 total.
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  3. #13
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    Goji Degotye
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    The cap is stupid. I want to be able to do everything.
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  4. #14
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    Project Ziek
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    I do agree that the cap is stupid. However, I do believe it is probably just there for now, and will probably be patched out of the game at some point, if there's enough demand for it.
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  5. #15
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    Cain Villiers
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JustPlainLucas View Post
    Why did you let us master each crafting job (and battle job as well) if you cap our desynthing?
    Possibly because they saw the effects of what happens when they allowed everyone to master each crafting job. Which is that everyone who cares about crafting maxes them all out easily and everyone ends up having the same skill set as everyone else. Not everyone finds it interesting when every crafter on the server ends up being exactly the same.
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  6. #16
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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    You can only cap 2, each class starts at 1 and is subtracted from the 300 total.
    Yes and no ... of course if you have all DoH at 30+ (usually 50) then you're missing 5 points in total so in theory you can reach only 295 on three you've decided to level up desynth on. If the other classes will be unable to drop bellow 1 you're indeed stuck at 295. However if you'd have only 3 DoH classes at 30+ and all other bellow 30 (loosing thus many crossclass abilities) you can in theory reach 300 so most logical solution would be to level up 2 most usefull desynths on your main and then other 3 (plus another 3 if you feel like) on your alt(s) while keeping any other "unwanted" classes bellow 30 there (or not level them at all if you don't care about crossclass skills, after all you can craft anything you need for leveling on your main anyway). Indeed there is an issue with passing items and gil between alts plus no option to pass bonded or untradable items but it's still better than nothing if you really really want to max desynth on all classes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    I do agree that the cap is stupid. However, I do believe it is probably just there for now, and will probably be patched out of the game at some point, if there's enough demand for it.
    I quite doubt that it would be changed - it was clearly stated fairly early that you'd not be able to level up / max out all classes on desynth, originally it even looked like it would be possible on only one so I'd say that (almost) three is quite acceptable compromiss. If you really want / "need" them all see my comment above.
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    Last edited by HEC; 07-19-2014 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    The cap is stupid. I want to be able to do everything.
    But you can do everything. The points are plastic to whatever class you want to desyth on.


    Quote Originally Posted by HEC View Post
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    Now, were talking about theories vs. what can actually be done. The points pool is separate from the crafting exp and level pool.


    EDIT:

    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Let's not pretend you don't know what I mean. It's petty.
    The same can could be said about such an exaggerated statement, when you can do everything. It's not like the points are static, and once you make a decision, that's it. You've been given flexibility with this.

    With that said, I'm not against having the ability to cap everything at 100 (which I understand as your meaning); I just don't think it's necessary, which you or anyone is welcome to disagree with.
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    Last edited by ShinkuTachi; 07-20-2014 at 01:47 AM.

  8. #18
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    Goji Degotye
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    Botanist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    But you can do everything. The points are plastic to whatever class you want to desyth on.
    Let's not pretend you don't know what I mean. It's petty.
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  9. #19
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    Yshelle Dawnholder
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I have only started to dabble in desynthesys. I assume that people want to be able to desynth cloth, leather, metal items, ergo the need for more than 1 at max level. However, desynthesys is only good for going after the elusive Master Demimateria and some lesser grades for crafting some items.
    So, I have to ask, if the demimateria is the only thing one is going for, why not just level 1 job to 100, get the Master Demimateria required to get the tools and be done with it? There may be something I am missing, so please enlighten me.
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    I have no prayer for that...

  10. #20
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrAM View Post
    It's specialization, and yes, if you really care to compare it to real life, someone that spends time on one skill 'will' slowly lose skill at other things. A carpenter who switches careers to construction work and later goes back to carpentry isn't going to be as good at it as they were when they left.
    Yeah. For the first few projects. But they can get back in the saddle fairly quickly. Skillsets are a lot like riding bikes. IRL, don't let the fear of 'loosing' your skill prevent you from pursuing new things.

    I don't like not being able to enjoy every element from an MMO, but you can change your specialty. It just takes a bit of work.
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