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    Request: OPEN WORLD PVP

    I do enjoy the new frontlines very much. It reminds me of what AV in WoW back when it was first released. I hope they continue to refine this cross server instanced content.

    As much as I love instances PVP, what I'd like to see is open world PVP. I think there's a lot of current mechanics that could benefit from this, particularly shitty gear upgrade progressions that is the ATMA fate grinds. What I envisioned is GC ownership of quadrant of a zone. Contribution to ownership is calculated based on activities done in the zone by all participants (i.e., mob kills, resource gathered, PVP kills, PVP quests, quests, FATE completion, control of towns/outposts, etc. Basically any activity. This should be weighted more for PVP than PVE.).

    Score is tallied up at the end of a set period. Once ownership is granted, higher drop rates of shit for all that won ownership of the quadrant. Zone ownership = EVEN higher drop rates of everything, particularly horrible quest items like ATMA and alexandrites and what have you.

    I'm approaching this with EVE and Planetside 2 in mind, both of which are awesome games to try out. If not, at least the mechanics that promotes player driven contents.
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    I'm not sure what you mean by "PVP kills" in the zone. Are you suggesting that everyone should be forced to PVP whether they want to or not?
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    All out PvP everywhere is just lame and adds nothing to the game. All of what you said equates to you should be rewarded for PvPing over people who dont. PvPing is quite boring. It always has been since the dawn of MMO's. It's always catered to hardcore gamers who spend more real life money on equipment to run the game faster over any real tactical in game skill. To me, its always added little to the experience. Even if you do factions, it always just ends up being chaos and you getting jumped by a roaming gang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnesia View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by "PVP kills" in the zone. Are you suggesting that everyone should be forced to PVP whether they want to or not?
    I think being able to op in and op out instead of mandatory is required. So as to avoid these "roaming gangs" #sonofbaldo

    Ultimately, I think giving people the OPTION to create their own content is much more cost efficient and sustainable.
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    Also, the emphasis is ALL activities, with PVP weighted more in the scoring. The purpose is to encourage people to op in on world PVP. But if you'd like, you can still stay neutral and contribute less while questing, leveling, questing, FATEs, hunting, chopping wood, mining rocks, etc.
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    Nope. That type of community needs to stay exactly where it is - not in FF14.
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skho01 View Post
    I think being able to op in and op out instead of mandatory is required. So as to avoid these "roaming gangs" #sonofbaldo

    Ultimately, I think giving people the OPTION to create their own content is much more cost efficient and sustainable.
    Opt-in open world PVP would be a good idea. It means that people who just want to go about minding their own business don't have to worry about dying in the world.

    But as in everything in the game, SE has to write story for it all. The three factions have an alliance and the only reason we fight at Carteneau is because of the story. If there is open world PVP implemented, there is going to have to be a story and reason behind it. From looking at everything SE has done, they want lore and story behind things .
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    Or make specific zones where this can happen.
    DAoC, Warhammer, and several other games do that. You have the "Frontier" zones where there is PvP and PvP objectives, and then the rest of the world where there is no PvP.
    FFXIV would be a lot like the DAoC servers that were "co-op" where all three realms could go anywhere, join any guild etc... but out in the frontier it was Guild vs Guild, or realm vs realm. Those who didn not wish to participate could simple just no go to the PvP area and there was tons of stuff for them to do.
    I think an addition of an zone or two that is like that would be awesome.
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    No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Opt-in open world PVP would be a good idea. It means that people who just want to go about minding their own business don't have to worry about dying in the world.

    But as in everything in the game, SE has to write story for it all. The three factions have an alliance and the only reason we fight at Carteneau is because of the story. If there is open world PVP implemented, there is going to have to be a story and reason behind it. From looking at everything SE has done, they want lore and story behind things .
    The story could be the along the same lines as frontlines. "fighting for honor to claim the land" something something nothing hostile just good fun.
    Maybe implement a relic system like Warhammer & DAoC and give FCs the ability to claim outposts for their Grand Company. The Aligan* artifacts could be held in these outposts giving a bonus to the Grand Company whom holds them. A bonus that is only active in PvP.
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